My IS-F appreciation thread (and sort of a Vent)
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I hope Lexus never puts a manual in the F cars. Who needs it these days? A clutch-less manual, basically what the IS-F has, is much faster and much more fun. You don't see manuals in any pro racing anymore these days for the same reason. it's slower.
Plus the 8th speed is so awesome for highway cruising. I've heard of people getting 27 mpg on the highway with the IS-F
Plus the 8th speed is so awesome for highway cruising. I've heard of people getting 27 mpg on the highway with the IS-F
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0KI2...e=channel_page
cool video of the ISF sounding even more like a muscle car with a custom exhaust
cool video of the ISF sounding even more like a muscle car with a custom exhaust
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Untamed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6w4o8nJZsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub4wp2VL0Ho
Strapped Down
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Untamed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6w4o8nJZsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub4wp2VL0Ho
Strapped Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNHJ2Cvr34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDfCbnr_4tE
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Tell me boys on the reliability end how would you rank them?
I mean out of all these cars in the first 5-10/100K years/miles of ownership?
Which one will be at the shop for unexpected repairs the least and which one of the owners is going to be in a rental talking to the Service Dept Manager?
Some people just don't have time for that sH__T.
I mean out of all these cars in the first 5-10/100K years/miles of ownership?
Which one will be at the shop for unexpected repairs the least and which one of the owners is going to be in a rental talking to the Service Dept Manager?
Some people just don't have time for that sH__T.
oh, and not to mention that i don't pay a single dime for any services on my m3.
do you see the toss up again? i can agree in the end lexus has better reliability, but still, other brands are better than other stuff. and i can also tell you that a lot of owners on these new performance cars, they don't really care about the cars after 3 yrs when they return them
you always gain some and give some on these cars period. there is no definite answer, but your own personal say
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I agree. Great thread. I love IS-F. I was seriously considering one but then I had IS350 for a long time (I still have IS350, love it so much that I will never sell that car.)
It was time for some changes when I went out shopping for new car.
It was time for some changes when I went out shopping for new car.
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Mind, you, I'm not panning the car (it's a great sport sedan) but, of course, it's not cheap, and, as I've mentioned before, it is not a car for rough roads.
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honestly, among m cars and amg, i don't see that many major problems on them to keep them in the shop a lot of times. they are built much better than the regular ones, which i do see them in the shop a lot more. and if you really want to bring time in shop into play, i can tell you that after my 1200 mile service on my m3, my next time to see dealership is at 15k miles. on the is-f, i can plan my trip 3 times at 5k, 10k, and 15k. same with mb, their service intervals are longer.
oh, and not to mention that i don't pay a single dime for any services on my m3.
oh, and not to mention that i don't pay a single dime for any services on my m3.
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Just to clarify, the ISF does not have an automated manual transmission. It's a full blown automatic transmission, complete with torque converter. What makes it special is a lock up torque converter, highly advanced shift programming, and eight speeds. However, it's not even closely related to a clutch-less, automated manual, transmission.
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Since not that many new ones were sold (especially compared to the M3), why would a significant number of used IS-Fs already be on the market? Sounds to me like one of two things happened. One, either the buyers found out that, in today's economy, they bit off more than they could chew with the payments, or, two, its rock-stiff suspension on rough roads was too much.
Mind, you, I'm not panning the car (it's a great sport sedan) but, of course, it's not cheap, and, as I've mentioned before, it is not a car for rough roads.
Mind, you, I'm not panning the car (it's a great sport sedan) but, of course, it's not cheap, and, as I've mentioned before, it is not a car for rough roads.
But yea the economy is really going to kill sales of these cars.
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honestly, among m cars and amg, i don't see that many major problems on them to keep them in the shop a lot of times. they are built much better than the regular ones, which i do see them in the shop a lot more. and if you really want to bring time in shop into play, i can tell you that after my 1200 mile service on my m3, my next time to see dealership is at 15k miles. on the is-f, i can plan my trip 3 times at 5k, 10k, and 15k. same with mb, their service intervals are longer.
oh, and not to mention that i don't pay a single dime for any services on my m3.
oh, and not to mention that i don't pay a single dime for any services on my m3.
if BMW maintenance wasn't free, I know they'd recommend 5K oil changes as well.
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A good point. Lexus would do well to start giving free service like BMW. Still, if you don't change the oil in your M3, even with synthetic and an oil-computer-monitor, for 13-14 thousand miles, IMO, that's stretching it, no matter what the oil-computer says. An oil-change every 5K mikes, like with Lexus, would, IMO, be much less of a risk.
i read from somewhere that a bmw tech with a new m3, looked at this oil at 10k miles and since new oil are added regularly (old ones burned out), everything looks very fine.
it's nothing crazy anymore with technology advancing. for example if you look at lexus, tranny fluids are NOT touched anymore for at least 100k miles, compared to previously every 30k miles at most.
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Since not that many new ones were sold (especially compared to the M3), why would a significant number of used IS-Fs already be on the market? Sounds to me like one of two things happened. One, either the buyers found out that, in today's economy, they bit off more than they could chew with the payments, or, two, its rock-stiff suspension on rough roads was too much.
Mind, you, I'm not panning the car (it's a great sport sedan) but, of course, it's not cheap, and, as I've mentioned before, it is not a car for rough roads.
Mind, you, I'm not panning the car (it's a great sport sedan) but, of course, it's not cheap, and, as I've mentioned before, it is not a car for rough roads.
i think is-f sales got hit quite bad at the end of 08MY where they were selling for 48k left and right. it put a huge ding on them and also the used market. the m3 market was hit pretty bad too, but since a lot of them went into the lease market eventually (and also bmw's tight control on the 09) prices didn't get jacked as bad.
but regardless, for a high performance car, the value of the is-f is unbeatable
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A good point. Lexus would do well to start giving free service like BMW. Still, if you don't change the oil in your M3, even with synthetic and an oil-computer-monitor, for 13-14 thousand miles, IMO, that's stretching it, no matter what the oil-computer says. An oil-change every 5K mikes, like with Lexus, would, IMO, be much less of a risk.
It is important to follow maintenence requirements of the manufacturer rather than the dealer