Long Term Test: 2008 Lexus IS F by Car & Driver
#31
I honestly don't feed as if this car is as bad a ride as the critics says it is. It's a Lexus until you hit 3.6k rpm; then all hell breaks loose. It definitely doesn't have the plushy ride of an ES or even a GS, but coming from a Mazda 3 I don't have high expectations. It's an awesome car, and being my DD in the summer fuel economy is a must.
#32
People complain about the ride because there is just about NOTHING else to complain about. It's a fuel efficient sports sedan with over 400 hp and close to 400 torque and it's RELIABLE. What's to complain about? Let's see... "it weighs too much" and um "ride is too hard" and "too many gears" and "fake exhaust". If you really think about those 4 complaints, they're BS. It's not like "Oh, the tranny blew out" or "electrical gremlins" or "fuel pump broke for the 5th time" etc. LOL
My only complaint is that I don't want to park it right next to anybody and get door dinged. OH, and I forgot, "the paint is too soft".
My only complaint is that I don't want to park it right next to anybody and get door dinged. OH, and I forgot, "the paint is too soft".
#37
The only issue I had with the F was indeed the ride quality. Ride over bumpy roads -or California roads- was painful for me because of its unpredictability. I mean that sometimes it seemed to be good over apparently bumpy sections but then suddenly would kick very hard over apparently good sections. In reality, some bumps were correctly managed while others would not so it was not really that unpredictable for one who could "read" them in advance.
I solved the problem by installing JIC FLT-TAR coilovers, manually adjustable in 16 steps (damping rate) and though I initially thought I would use a medium setting (already more comfortable and more compliant than stock) I set them to softest. I would set them to a harder setting should I go to a track. But in every day, even spirited mountain driving, that worked very well for me. The soft setting gives more of a "floating" feeling over bumps but the suspension manages very well and I have not noticed much sinking over hard cornering (partially explained by the much higher spring rate). Further, I have yet to make car hop (rear) with this suspension, something I had managed a couple times with the stock suspension. Finally, the car is slightly lower since the JIC would lower by 1/2 to 3/4 inch minimum, so the look is more aggressive.
The car should be sold with this JIC suspension as an option or better, have it standard. Not cheap as an after market option but the manufacturer could make it much cheaper. The manufacturer should also make sure mice can't get in the ventilation system or otherwise in the engine compartment...
So my only frustration left is that I rarely use the power because the opportunities are rare...
I solved the problem by installing JIC FLT-TAR coilovers, manually adjustable in 16 steps (damping rate) and though I initially thought I would use a medium setting (already more comfortable and more compliant than stock) I set them to softest. I would set them to a harder setting should I go to a track. But in every day, even spirited mountain driving, that worked very well for me. The soft setting gives more of a "floating" feeling over bumps but the suspension manages very well and I have not noticed much sinking over hard cornering (partially explained by the much higher spring rate). Further, I have yet to make car hop (rear) with this suspension, something I had managed a couple times with the stock suspension. Finally, the car is slightly lower since the JIC would lower by 1/2 to 3/4 inch minimum, so the look is more aggressive.
The car should be sold with this JIC suspension as an option or better, have it standard. Not cheap as an after market option but the manufacturer could make it much cheaper. The manufacturer should also make sure mice can't get in the ventilation system or otherwise in the engine compartment...
So my only frustration left is that I rarely use the power because the opportunities are rare...
#39
Lexus Fanatic
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I have had this happen at least 2-3 times now, driving on SoCal freeways...
It's actually also lifted my a** out of my seat as well..
But I still love my F... Coils are on the way..
Joe Z
#40
Lexus Champion
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I solved the problem by installing JIC FLT-TAR coilovers, manually adjustable in 16 steps (damping rate) and though I initially thought I would use a medium setting (already more comfortable and more compliant than stock) I set them to softest. I would set them to a harder setting should I go to a track. But in every day, even spirited mountain driving, that worked very well for me. The soft setting gives more of a "floating" feeling over bumps but the suspension manages very well and I have not noticed much sinking over hard cornering (partially explained by the much higher spring rate). .
#44
There were several threads months ago about the suspension. Spring rate tells how much the suspension compresses with the force (or weight applied). I am not a suspension expert but I believe the stock front is around 9 Kg/mm and the JIC is 12 Kg/mm. It means to compress by 1 mm you need to put a 12 Kg weight on it. The higher that number the "harder" the suspension should feel, in theory.
Any suspension that would lower the car needs a higher spring rate because it has less distance to travel. Even though that would seem to indicate that it would feel firmer or less comfortable, the damper plays a big role as well and, according to some members, were the problem on the F. The JIC suspension seem to have a better designed/calibrated damper/spring combination which not only allow to lower the car but also make it more comfortable and more compliant on the road. I could not believe it until I saw the feedback from others so I decided to get one and indeed it works.
Any suspension that would lower the car needs a higher spring rate because it has less distance to travel. Even though that would seem to indicate that it would feel firmer or less comfortable, the damper plays a big role as well and, according to some members, were the problem on the F. The JIC suspension seem to have a better designed/calibrated damper/spring combination which not only allow to lower the car but also make it more comfortable and more compliant on the road. I could not believe it until I saw the feedback from others so I decided to get one and indeed it works.
#45