proud new owner of ISF...coming from BMW world.
10-16-10, 06:41 AM
#46
SGM FTW!!! 
I actually wasted a bunch of time reading the posts over on M3forum. It seems you have a ton of respect over there. Surprisingly, I thought it was quite mature and respectful overall....except for the Serious dude who's a complete douche....and especially compared to M3post.
Congrats on the pick up. The M3 is a great car....IF you don't have to deal with the rest of the bs. Hopefully your F is everything you want it to be.
I actually wasted a bunch of time reading the posts over on M3forum. It seems you have a ton of respect over there. Surprisingly, I thought it was quite mature and respectful overall....except for the Serious dude who's a complete douche....and especially compared to M3post.
Congrats on the pick up. The M3 is a great car....IF you don't have to deal with the rest of the bs. Hopefully your F is everything you want it to be.
The comments by Serious about Japan and China actually took me by surprise. He's usually a good guy with a level head that speaks his mind. I guess I never knew his stance on any political issues.
It's gonna be another great ride here on Club Lexus. It's a breath of fresh air to not be surrounded by a bunch of kids who just bought a deeply depreciated car. I'll enjoy this forum to the fullest until the ISF crowd gets immature too.
10-16-10, 09:41 AM
#48
I have been waiting YEARS! (after the Supra) for toyota to finally build something other than a a half a$$ "sporty-performance" car (in their opinion) and finally build something that I dont have to mod into oblivion to get some real power & speed out of. ---THey went into Family sedan, SUV and Plush adequte power luxury mode for like 10 years...
The only real car with some speed/power on it stock came from the IS350 in 2006. And I was like FINALLY ! sheesh! (but good luck finding mods to make it faster)
And now the F is like a breath of fresh air to take it to the next level...like now I can finally have something with some real from factory power/speed in it..and RELIABILITY also!
I owned a G35 coupe in 2003 - let it go in 2006 with only 14Kmi on it because of the same reason- Its CRAP basically...but again I'm not down with 500 trips to my dealer for yet another damn issue.
F is the way to go over 400HP and 370TQ right out the box! from TOYOTA!!
yeah thats a nice place to start modding from...and even if you dont get a lot of "power increasing" mods...so what. Im good cause they started me off with over 400HP and while the others are breakin down or just causing you a headache in 5 years from issues...My toyota will outlast them all!
(IS) F - with that! .......I say!
10-16-10, 11:21 AM
#49
Yup. That's 2 of us that I know of. There's probably more but the F is rare so there's not going that many more at least for now. Part and parcel of the F being a great car to have.
I did read the M3 forum and I was surprised, to be honest, with the maturity level overall. Definitely higher than my impressions of the Beemer forums in general in the few occassions I looked around when I was deciding between the F, M3, and the 335.
I did read the M3 forum and I was surprised, to be honest, with the maturity level overall. Definitely higher than my impressions of the Beemer forums in general in the few occassions I looked around when I was deciding between the F, M3, and the 335.
10-16-10, 09:28 PM
#50
Yup. That's 2 of us that I know of. There's probably more but the F is rare so there's not going that many more at least for now. Part and parcel of the F being a great car to have.
I did read the M3 forum and I was surprised, to be honest, with the maturity level overall. Definitely higher than my impressions of the Beemer forums in general in the few occassions I looked around when I was deciding between the F, M3, and the 335.
I did read the M3 forum and I was surprised, to be honest, with the maturity level overall. Definitely higher than my impressions of the Beemer forums in general in the few occassions I looked around when I was deciding between the F, M3, and the 335.
10-17-10, 01:38 AM
#51
Plain and simple reliability based on consumer reports, my buddy who worked in a BMW dealership, and friends who echoed the same sentiments about the Beemer as you did.
I have had experience with Toyota and inputs from tons of people that IMO is the company that makes the best cars.
The Beemer is no doubt enticing and I personally like its style but my logic tells me that Lexus is the way to go. I don't want to be putting down 30-50 grand and deal with "issues" such as HPFP or whatever else Beemers have.
I don't care if the warranty takes care of all maintenance costs if the car is going to spend a significant of time in the dealership for repairs then that's bullcrap as far as I'm concerned.
You just don't deal with these kind of issues w/ Toyota or Lexus or even hear of them even though I'm sure there are exceptions.
Granted the Beemer may have the edge in 10/10ths driving but I could care less, I spend 95% of my time less than 10/10ths driving and quality, luxury, and reliability are MUCH more practical factors for me. Mind you I do appreciate cutting edge performance as I'm a Skip Barber racing school graduate but I don't race cars for a living.
I have had experience with Toyota and inputs from tons of people that IMO is the company that makes the best cars.
The Beemer is no doubt enticing and I personally like its style but my logic tells me that Lexus is the way to go. I don't want to be putting down 30-50 grand and deal with "issues" such as HPFP or whatever else Beemers have.
I don't care if the warranty takes care of all maintenance costs if the car is going to spend a significant of time in the dealership for repairs then that's bullcrap as far as I'm concerned.
You just don't deal with these kind of issues w/ Toyota or Lexus or even hear of them even though I'm sure there are exceptions.
Granted the Beemer may have the edge in 10/10ths driving but I could care less, I spend 95% of my time less than 10/10ths driving and quality, luxury, and reliability are MUCH more practical factors for me. Mind you I do appreciate cutting edge performance as I'm a Skip Barber racing school graduate but I don't race cars for a living.
10-17-10, 09:09 AM
#52
^ It's funny how a few people on M3forum mentioned to me that I could've gotten an E92 M3 with a 4/50k warranty and free maintenance. Having a warranty and free maintenance doesn't get rid of the quality flaws!
Sure, I have peace of mind knowing I don't have to pay for repairs, but I don't have peace of mind in the first place of my car not breaking.
Sure, I have peace of mind knowing I don't have to pay for repairs, but I don't have peace of mind in the first place of my car not breaking.
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