This is one of reason why purchased 2011ISF
12-07-10, 08:46 PM
#1
Moderator
Thread Starter
This is one of reason why purchased 2011ISF
Was at Bimmerforums checking out a friends new M3 when I came across this post this must really suck feel bad for the guy.
#1 11-18-2010, 06:54 PM
Chigley
Member Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Cars: '03 330i '08 335i '11 M3
Posts: 1
2011 M3 - A Tale of Woe in The Making ..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello! I'm new here, although I've been lurking for awhile now. I have a tale of woe to tell about by new M3, and wanted to see if anyone else has heard similar stories or had problems like this ..
I took deliver of my brand new 2011 M3 on 11/12. Custom built, shipped over from Europe, after 11 weeks of pure anticipation. The car is the Sedan with DCT. I drove it off the lot with 4 miles on the odometer, and happily drove it for 2 whole days before my problems started.
Monday morning, I pull out my driveway to go to work, and the car sputters and loses power. I large red cog with an "!" lights up and I limp to the side of the road. I turn around and drive the 100 yards back to my house and park. I cycle the car a couple times and the error clears, so I try again and this time my drive is uneventful, albeit a little nervous.
The next day, I take the car back to the dealer and they have a look at it. They can see the error in the computer but they don't have any ideas. They keep the car over night and test drive it the next day, and the transmission throws an error again. They still have no real idea if it's software or hardware, so they open a "case" with BMW HQ.
They spend all yesterday running tests and diagnostics and still cant pinpoint the problem. Today they finally tracked it down to a software problem, specific to my manufacture run. The car is supposedly running the latest software, but there is an update available and apparently this is a known issue, although a new issue.
The software update is not available in North America and they have a representative from BMW HQ working on getting the software for my car, to the dealer. They say they should know tomorrow if this is indeed going to work and fix the problem, and how long before I get my beloved M3 back.
So far, they have had the car longer than I have and put more miles on it than I have. This is definitely NOT the experience I was hoping for with my new M3.
Anyone else heard of this sort of problem? It all seems a little too vague to me.
Cheers!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last edited by Chigley; 11-18-2010 at 07:02 PM..
#1 11-18-2010, 06:54 PM
Chigley
Member Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Cars: '03 330i '08 335i '11 M3
Posts: 1
2011 M3 - A Tale of Woe in The Making ..
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello! I'm new here, although I've been lurking for awhile now. I have a tale of woe to tell about by new M3, and wanted to see if anyone else has heard similar stories or had problems like this ..
I took deliver of my brand new 2011 M3 on 11/12. Custom built, shipped over from Europe, after 11 weeks of pure anticipation. The car is the Sedan with DCT. I drove it off the lot with 4 miles on the odometer, and happily drove it for 2 whole days before my problems started.
Monday morning, I pull out my driveway to go to work, and the car sputters and loses power. I large red cog with an "!" lights up and I limp to the side of the road. I turn around and drive the 100 yards back to my house and park. I cycle the car a couple times and the error clears, so I try again and this time my drive is uneventful, albeit a little nervous.
The next day, I take the car back to the dealer and they have a look at it. They can see the error in the computer but they don't have any ideas. They keep the car over night and test drive it the next day, and the transmission throws an error again. They still have no real idea if it's software or hardware, so they open a "case" with BMW HQ.
They spend all yesterday running tests and diagnostics and still cant pinpoint the problem. Today they finally tracked it down to a software problem, specific to my manufacture run. The car is supposedly running the latest software, but there is an update available and apparently this is a known issue, although a new issue.
The software update is not available in North America and they have a representative from BMW HQ working on getting the software for my car, to the dealer. They say they should know tomorrow if this is indeed going to work and fix the problem, and how long before I get my beloved M3 back.
So far, they have had the car longer than I have and put more miles on it than I have. This is definitely NOT the experience I was hoping for with my new M3.
Anyone else heard of this sort of problem? It all seems a little too vague to me.
Cheers!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Last edited by Chigley; 11-18-2010 at 07:02 PM..
12-07-10, 08:50 PM
#2
Oh, that's nothing. There are far more pressing issues going on with the e92 M3 -
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
12-07-10, 08:57 PM
#3
Moderator
Thread Starter
Oh, that's nothing. There are far more pressing issues going on with the e92 M3 -
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
I thought they had resolved the issues with DCT transmission
12-07-10, 09:21 PM
#4
With something like the M-DCT lag - this is an actual safety issue -
Just got my 1200 mile service. I notified the tech of the problem and took him for a drive to demonstrate it.
I was in a hurry when I picked the car up so I didn't really talk to anyone when I got it back. Less than a mile from the dealership I tried to replicate the problem...yep still there...not fixed...crap...
The situation that concerns me most with this problem is in making a rolling left hand turn. You slow as you approach the turn, assessing if you have a gap in oncoming traffic to turn through, the DCT has downshifted to 2nd as you approach your turn, before coming to a stop there is a gap to turn through, you step on the gas and turn into traffic and...nothing.
Additionally, this is just a wickedly annoying fault in an expensive performance car. If I go pick up some cheap econobox, I still wouldn't accept this problem, but could understand its existence a little better. I cannot understand it in a $70K M3.
I was in a hurry when I picked the car up so I didn't really talk to anyone when I got it back. Less than a mile from the dealership I tried to replicate the problem...yep still there...not fixed...crap...
The situation that concerns me most with this problem is in making a rolling left hand turn. You slow as you approach the turn, assessing if you have a gap in oncoming traffic to turn through, the DCT has downshifted to 2nd as you approach your turn, before coming to a stop there is a gap to turn through, you step on the gas and turn into traffic and...nothing.
Additionally, this is just a wickedly annoying fault in an expensive performance car. If I go pick up some cheap econobox, I still wouldn't accept this problem, but could understand its existence a little better. I cannot understand it in a $70K M3.
M3-DCT owners with "lag" issues are a bunch of whiny prissies. Wah wah wah, "its dangerous ... its a hazard," boo hoo hoo, I feel so sorry for you that you're driving the car that (still) allows BMW to have the slogan "ultimate driving machine."
You know what I say? "Bayerische Motoren Werke AG ... EXCELLENT WORK, I LOVE MY 09 M3 COUPE!"
I know this is a soon-to-be-retired post, but I have good reason for this post. Early this morning, I took my 09 M3 Coupe in for its first real servicing at approximately 14000 miles. Its going in for an oil change, check of the rear differential fluid, and, what has now become (in)famous, a DCT software update.
The BMW dealer gave me a loaner, an 09 335i convertible 6-AT. I'm just gonna say it, I'll take my 09 M3 with DCT-lag over any car, any day, forever. Even with the lag, I have gotten so used to the power of my M3, its lightning quick shifts, speed-sensitive steering, exhaust note, hood bulge, and other jet-like features that driving the 335i was like driving Fred Flintstone's car.
So far all you complainers about DCT-lag, you want a cure? Go drive any other car, then ask yourself if a little DCT-lag is THAT difficult to live with. I've gotten used to it. And now after having driven this 335i, the DCT-lag matters so little that I would say my M3 is a near-perfect car.
I will say, I'm hopeful that my DCT-lag issue goes away with this latest software update. However, if after a few weeks, DCT-lag rears its ugly head again, I don't care. Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too.
This is how I feel everytime I get out of M3 coupe everyday ...
You know what I say? "Bayerische Motoren Werke AG ... EXCELLENT WORK, I LOVE MY 09 M3 COUPE!"
I know this is a soon-to-be-retired post, but I have good reason for this post. Early this morning, I took my 09 M3 Coupe in for its first real servicing at approximately 14000 miles. Its going in for an oil change, check of the rear differential fluid, and, what has now become (in)famous, a DCT software update.
The BMW dealer gave me a loaner, an 09 335i convertible 6-AT. I'm just gonna say it, I'll take my 09 M3 with DCT-lag over any car, any day, forever. Even with the lag, I have gotten so used to the power of my M3, its lightning quick shifts, speed-sensitive steering, exhaust note, hood bulge, and other jet-like features that driving the 335i was like driving Fred Flintstone's car.
So far all you complainers about DCT-lag, you want a cure? Go drive any other car, then ask yourself if a little DCT-lag is THAT difficult to live with. I've gotten used to it. And now after having driven this 335i, the DCT-lag matters so little that I would say my M3 is a near-perfect car.
I will say, I'm hopeful that my DCT-lag issue goes away with this latest software update. However, if after a few weeks, DCT-lag rears its ugly head again, I don't care. Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too.
This is how I feel everytime I get out of M3 coupe everyday ...
12-07-10, 10:33 PM
#5
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Orange County, Ca
Posts: 1,947
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I actually think the e92 M3 is pretty reliable.
I think the DCT ones are more prone to problems, if I were to buy a M3 it would be a stripped 6MT with no Navi.
I think the DCT ones are more prone to problems, if I were to buy a M3 it would be a stripped 6MT with no Navi.
12-07-10, 10:44 PM
#6
if the only problems lexus has relate to wind noise or creaking, that is pretty much as good as it gets for me. sure, there can be problems that are correctable under warranty, but once that warranty expires...ouch! this m3 guy barely had his car and already problems, which should be ok for now.
as far as the "Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too" post- horrible justification for keeping an m3. i'd feel embarassed if i drove an m3 and it broke down with my woman in the car. guy should be worried about her keeping him around...
as far as the "Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too" post- horrible justification for keeping an m3. i'd feel embarassed if i drove an m3 and it broke down with my woman in the car. guy should be worried about her keeping him around...
12-07-10, 11:49 PM
#7
Lexus Champion
Oh, that's nothing. There are far more pressing issues going on with the e92 M3 -
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231020
81 pages of frustration for you to enjoy
Trending Topics
12-08-10, 12:31 AM
#8
12-08-10, 04:54 AM
#11
Lexus Champion
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Aventura, Florida
Posts: 2,148
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Haha. I skimmed through the thread and found this on the last page
"The BMW dealer gave me a loaner, an 09 335i convertible 6-AT. I'm just gonna say it, I'll take my 09 M3 with DCT-lag over any car, any day, forever. Even with the lag, I have gotten so used to the power of my M3, its lightning quick shifts, speed-sensitive steering, exhaust note, hood bulge, and other jet-like features that driving the 335i was like driving Fred Flintstone's car."
Man Some people just crack me up lol
"The BMW dealer gave me a loaner, an 09 335i convertible 6-AT. I'm just gonna say it, I'll take my 09 M3 with DCT-lag over any car, any day, forever. Even with the lag, I have gotten so used to the power of my M3, its lightning quick shifts, speed-sensitive steering, exhaust note, hood bulge, and other jet-like features that driving the 335i was like driving Fred Flintstone's car."
Man Some people just crack me up lol
12-08-10, 06:42 AM
#13
if the only problems lexus has relate to wind noise or creaking, that is pretty much as good as it gets for me. sure, there can be problems that are correctable under warranty, but once that warranty expires...ouch! this m3 guy barely had his car and already problems, which should be ok for now.
as far as the "Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too" post- horrible justification for keeping an m3. i'd feel embarassed if i drove an m3 and it broke down with my woman in the car. guy should be worried about her keeping him around...
as far as the "Women have all sorts of issues and we still keep them around. If my M3's only issue is DCT-lag, then I'll keep my M3 around too" post- horrible justification for keeping an m3. i'd feel embarassed if i drove an m3 and it broke down with my woman in the car. guy should be worried about her keeping him around...
12-08-10, 07:15 AM
#15
You guys have to remember we always hear about the problems more than the good things with any product as those are the people who complain and bring it to light....
I have tons of friends / clients with e92 m3's and not a single problem. You can't single out one story and use it to justify a brand's reliability across the board.
My e46 m3 I took delivery in 02 - owned it 7 years and never a single problem when I eventually sold it to a new owner after putting about 50k on her.
Our e93 m3 is been trouble-free too
I love both car platforms for different reasons and there's no reason to bash one car or the other as it only makes you sound immature.
The Ferrari 458 Italia had engine fire issues but I don't see that stopping anyone from writing checks for one. If I had the means to get one I certainly won't hesitate to have one in my stable.
I have tons of friends / clients with e92 m3's and not a single problem. You can't single out one story and use it to justify a brand's reliability across the board.
My e46 m3 I took delivery in 02 - owned it 7 years and never a single problem when I eventually sold it to a new owner after putting about 50k on her.
Our e93 m3 is been trouble-free too
I love both car platforms for different reasons and there's no reason to bash one car or the other as it only makes you sound immature.
The Ferrari 458 Italia had engine fire issues but I don't see that stopping anyone from writing checks for one. If I had the means to get one I certainly won't hesitate to have one in my stable.