Brake pad question
01-07-11 | 03:17 PM
#16
If I may ask, how many labor hours they quoted you for all 4 corners?
01-07-11 | 03:38 PM
#17
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The OEM pads are aggressive, high-iron content formula. They have a lot of bite when cold and they are very fade resistant. The downside is, they wear quickly. Where do you think the prodigious amounts of black dust are coming from?
The OEM Brembo rotors are ductile iron. They are also designed to work with the OEM pads, to offer lots of bite when cold and resist fading. They wear quickly because of the softness of the rotor. This was completely a design decision.
I'm a really tame driver and pads and rotors last me a long time. But they wear very quickly in stop and go driving. Mostly city, I got about 26k miles.
The rotors are probably usable. They are ringed like the bottom of a Folger's coffee tin. They need to be turned before being re-used. I don't normally need to turn rotors for a pad change, but these were deeply grooved. There was more than a 1.5 mm ridge on them. That's a lot of wear.
If you think you're going to get 50k miles out of the OEM brakes on an ISF, you are either doing 90% long distance freeway driving, or you're kidding yourself. These brakes are intended for aggressive use and they will track just fine out of the box. They will make noise, they will make lots of dust and they will wear out quickly.
The OEM Brembo rotors are ductile iron. They are also designed to work with the OEM pads, to offer lots of bite when cold and resist fading. They wear quickly because of the softness of the rotor. This was completely a design decision.
I'm a really tame driver and pads and rotors last me a long time. But they wear very quickly in stop and go driving. Mostly city, I got about 26k miles.
The rotors are probably usable. They are ringed like the bottom of a Folger's coffee tin. They need to be turned before being re-used. I don't normally need to turn rotors for a pad change, but these were deeply grooved. There was more than a 1.5 mm ridge on them. That's a lot of wear.
If you think you're going to get 50k miles out of the OEM brakes on an ISF, you are either doing 90% long distance freeway driving, or you're kidding yourself. These brakes are intended for aggressive use and they will track just fine out of the box. They will make noise, they will make lots of dust and they will wear out quickly.
01-07-11 | 09:21 PM
#18
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I didn't ask how long it would take. He quoted me $240 for labor, but thats for all four corners. I just need fronts done so it should be a little less. He also said if I want to cut/machine the rotors that will be covered under the $240. Now I just cant wait for the new carbotechs to arrive...nothing like fresh new brakes
01-07-11 | 10:48 PM
#19
The OEM pads are aggressive, high-iron content formula. They have a lot of bite when cold and they are very fade resistant. The downside is, they wear quickly. Where do you think the prodigious amounts of black dust are coming from?
The OEM Brembo rotors are ductile iron. They are also designed to work with the OEM pads, to offer lots of bite when cold and resist fading. They wear quickly because of the softness of the rotor. This was completely a design decision.
I'm a really tame driver and pads and rotors last me a long time. But they wear very quickly in stop and go driving. Mostly city, I got about 26k miles.
The rotors are probably usable. They are ringed like the bottom of a Folger's coffee tin. They need to be turned before being re-used. I don't normally need to turn rotors for a pad change, but these were deeply grooved. There was more than a 1.5 mm ridge on them. That's a lot of wear.
If you think you're going to get 50k miles out of the OEM brakes on an ISF, you are either doing 90% long distance freeway driving, or you're kidding yourself. These brakes are intended for aggressive use and they will track just fine out of the box. They will make noise, they will make lots of dust and they will wear out quickly.
The OEM Brembo rotors are ductile iron. They are also designed to work with the OEM pads, to offer lots of bite when cold and resist fading. They wear quickly because of the softness of the rotor. This was completely a design decision.
I'm a really tame driver and pads and rotors last me a long time. But they wear very quickly in stop and go driving. Mostly city, I got about 26k miles.
The rotors are probably usable. They are ringed like the bottom of a Folger's coffee tin. They need to be turned before being re-used. I don't normally need to turn rotors for a pad change, but these were deeply grooved. There was more than a 1.5 mm ridge on them. That's a lot of wear.
If you think you're going to get 50k miles out of the OEM brakes on an ISF, you are either doing 90% long distance freeway driving, or you're kidding yourself. These brakes are intended for aggressive use and they will track just fine out of the box. They will make noise, they will make lots of dust and they will wear out quickly.
01-09-11 | 02:18 PM
#20
A pretty decent quote.
I didn't ask how long it would take. He quoted me $240 for labor, but thats for all four corners. I just need fronts done so it should be a little less. He also said if I want to cut/machine the rotors that will be covered under the $240. Now I just cant wait for the new carbotechs to arrive...nothing like fresh new brakes
01-09-11 | 03:09 PM
#21
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ive got an 08 with 12k on my oem pads. i hear a "grinding type" noise from 10 mph less...its not even too concerning, especially since i dont hear it when i am at any other speed.
does this mean my pads ARE actually grinding and i need them? the rotors look to be in good shape. Again, i have 12k miles.
does this mean my pads ARE actually grinding and i need them? the rotors look to be in good shape. Again, i have 12k miles.
01-09-11 | 09:14 PM
#22
For all you guys who think turning the rotors is a good idea - wrong. I put a set of turned rotors on the front of my car (bought them for $50), and they're not wearing at all the way one would expect. They look like carbon brakes because they have little black spots all over the face from where the tool chattered. Turning these rotors is a disaster. These have been on the car for more than 5k miles.
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