Switching to PS2, got 32k out of the Potenzas
04-13-11, 06:57 PM
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Hard to say, I went and looked them up again, looked up the numbers off the Michelin website, then went out and looked at the tires again. The rears I got are 96 (Y) (with parenthesis) the OEM Lexus version is just 96Y. The max load @ PSI and everything is right, treads are the same,etc.
The only difference I can tell is the cosmetics of the sidewall. That and $80 saved.
FWIW, the PS/2 seems to ride a bit better than the Bridgestones. Noise seems different, not worse, not better, just different kind of tire noise. Handling seems as awesome as ever.
The only difference I can tell is the cosmetics of the sidewall. That and $80 saved.
FWIW, the PS/2 seems to ride a bit better than the Bridgestones. Noise seems different, not worse, not better, just different kind of tire noise. Handling seems as awesome as ever.
Lou
04-13-11, 07:53 PM
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PS2's went on today. So far, I think they are a teensy bit quieter than the OEM bridgestones. Ride seems a little better too. The tiny bumps seem to be a little less brittle. Maybe because they're new.
Weird thing, on the Tirerack site, they had the exact same PS/2's listed multiple times, with different prices on the fronts and backs in each "set". So I picked the cheapest front and the cheapest rears. Saved about $80.
The sizes are right, load ratings, etc, the treads are the same, but the molding on the sides is a little different, Michelin logo and number styles are a little different front to back. Like anyone would notice.
The shop did an alignment and touched up the toe front and back. It was kind of middle on the "before" and they dialed the fronts the other way, but within spec, in response to the inner-shoulder wear. Said they might wear a little better this way, but still within the OEM range. Guess we'll see.
Weird thing, on the Tirerack site, they had the exact same PS/2's listed multiple times, with different prices on the fronts and backs in each "set". So I picked the cheapest front and the cheapest rears. Saved about $80.
The sizes are right, load ratings, etc, the treads are the same, but the molding on the sides is a little different, Michelin logo and number styles are a little different front to back. Like anyone would notice.
The shop did an alignment and touched up the toe front and back. It was kind of middle on the "before" and they dialed the fronts the other way, but within spec, in response to the inner-shoulder wear. Said they might wear a little better this way, but still within the OEM range. Guess we'll see.
Hard to say, I went and looked them up again, looked up the numbers off the Michelin website, then went out and looked at the tires again. The rears I got are 96 (Y) (with parenthesis) the OEM Lexus version is just 96Y. The max load @ PSI and everything is right, treads are the same,etc.
The only difference I can tell is the cosmetics of the sidewall. That and $80 saved.
FWIW, the PS/2 seems to ride a bit better than the Bridgestones. Noise seems different, not worse, not better, just different kind of tire noise. Handling seems as awesome as ever.
The only difference I can tell is the cosmetics of the sidewall. That and $80 saved.
FWIW, the PS/2 seems to ride a bit better than the Bridgestones. Noise seems different, not worse, not better, just different kind of tire noise. Handling seems as awesome as ever.
04-14-11, 12:23 AM
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Kind of wonder if I should have got the Michelin Super Sports, better treadwear, less money and intended to replace the PS/2. Seems like a big win.
04-15-11, 05:07 PM
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300 vs 220 treadwear rating for the PSS vs PS2... likely due to the fact that the PSS starts at 10/32" while most PS2 tires start at 9/32" or 8/32".
I'm going to read more about these.
04-21-11, 02:32 AM
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Slight update:
Super happy with the PS/2 vs. the Bridgestones. Overall ride quality is better, handles better.
Second update:
The difference on the ISF OEM-spec PS2: The rim protection lip is about 2mm thicker. Lexus spec'd that the sidewall have a lip molded in it to protect the rim from curbs and stuff. The Bridgestones and PS/2 OEM spec have these. The generic PS2 has it too, but not as thick.
If anyone gets the Super Sports, I'd love to hear their thoughts.
Super happy with the PS/2 vs. the Bridgestones. Overall ride quality is better, handles better.
Second update:
The difference on the ISF OEM-spec PS2: The rim protection lip is about 2mm thicker. Lexus spec'd that the sidewall have a lip molded in it to protect the rim from curbs and stuff. The Bridgestones and PS/2 OEM spec have these. The generic PS2 has it too, but not as thick.
If anyone gets the Super Sports, I'd love to hear their thoughts.
04-21-11, 11:29 PM
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The difference on the ISF OEM-spec PS2: The rim protection lip is about 2mm thicker. Lexus spec'd that the sidewall have a lip molded in it to protect the rim from curbs and stuff. The Bridgestones and PS/2 OEM spec have these. The generic PS2 has it too, but not as thick.
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