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09-22-11, 12:01 PM
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this is why it's taking me forever to figure out who i want to install the headers, cause i've interviewed 3 shops 
sorry for this BS , ERDoc hope things get straightened out soon
sorry for this BS , ERDoc hope things get straightened out soon
09-22-11, 12:38 PM
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Ok, so I just got off the phone with Paul from PPE.... (very good customer service btw) Anyway, if you purchase the optional high flow cats, they don't send the "O2 conditioner" kit as they assume they will be installed at the time of header install.... (not the case obviously in my situation as they will be installed in the next couple of weeks and will also be removed intermittently (via V-Band clamps) for track days). BTW he explained that this is not a true O2 sim and they call it "O2 conditioner" as it "modifies the O2 sensor signal" and doesn't just simply generate a false signal for the ECU. (he says this is better, as well....) He also said that when the CEL is on because of no O2 conditioner installed, that he's been aware of issues like mine with first gear and traction control lights, etc.... SO, hopefully I'll get the part tomorrow am and will be taking it to he shop to get it installed tomorrow.... and all the issues (minus the scratched wheel...) will be resolved! 
I'll keep you all posted!
I'll keep you all posted!
09-22-11, 01:45 PM
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Ok, so I just got off the phone with Paul from PPE.... (very good customer service btw) Anyway, if you purchase the optional high flow cats, they don't send the "O2 conditioner" kit as they assume they will be installed at the time of header install.... (not the case obviously in my situation as they will be installed in the next couple of weeks and will also be removed intermittently (via V-Band clamps) for track days). BTW he explained that this is not a true O2 sim and they call it "O2 conditioner" as it "modifies the O2 sensor signal" and doesn't just simply generate a false signal for the ECU. (he says this is better, as well....) He also said that when the CEL is on because of no O2 conditioner installed, that he's been aware of issues like mine with first gear and traction control lights, etc.... SO, hopefully I'll get the part tomorrow am and will be taking it to he shop to get it installed tomorrow.... and all the issues (minus the scratched wheel...) will be resolved! I'll keep you all posted!
I'll keep you all posted!His explanation makes perfect sense...
Let's hope you at least get the small issues resolved ASAP..
~ Joe Z
09-22-11, 07:28 PM
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Hey Doc, glad Paul got you squared away
We talked this morning about you before the call. I was up there this afternoon and he told me he will be sending you the o2 conditioner to square you away. I'm sorry for the problems you encountered, but hopefully you will find a shop that knows what they are doing and all will be well.
Lou
We talked this morning about you before the call. I was up there this afternoon and he told me he will be sending you the o2 conditioner to square you away. I'm sorry for the problems you encountered, but hopefully you will find a shop that knows what they are doing and all will be well.Lou
09-23-11, 06:51 AM
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Hey Doc, glad Paul got you squared away We talked this morning about you before the call. I was up there this afternoon and he told me he will be sending you the o2 conditioner to square you away. I'm sorry for the problems you encountered, but hopefully you will find a shop that knows what they are doing and all will be well.
Lou
We talked this morning about you before the call. I was up there this afternoon and he told me he will be sending you the o2 conditioner to square you away. I'm sorry for the problems you encountered, but hopefully you will find a shop that knows what they are doing and all will be well.Lou
I'll just be glad when my baby's working right again and all lights are off! Anybody have any advice on the wheel scratch? As far as I know, no one has ever found out the actual paint code...
I've used the phantom grey color before, but it's much too light.
09-23-11, 08:30 AM
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^^^^Actually, I have found that Toyota Paint Code 1E3 is pretty close. To me, it's a perfect match. Sewell seems to think so also. See this thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...om-sewell.html
Lou
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...om-sewell.html
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09-23-11, 08:22 PM
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^^^^Actually, I have found that Toyota Paint Code 1E3 is pretty close. To me, it's a perfect match. Sewell seems to think so also. See this thread:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...om-sewell.html
Lou
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...om-sewell.html
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It seems some also agree, but others think it's very close.....
09-24-11, 09:54 AM
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09-24-11, 05:24 PM
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i had a shop try 3 times to match the color before they just bought me a new wheel.... also those guys owe you a new wheel, that's why those shops carry insurance.
take some pics, and if you have a lawyer friend, have him/her draw up a letter that will scare them into getting into contact with their insurance people.
i'm not an ER Doc, but i'm another dentist like Tooth and I have gotten my lawyer to draw up stuff for things like that.
(after your works is all done of course.... hehe)
take some pics, and if you have a lawyer friend, have him/her draw up a letter that will scare them into getting into contact with their insurance people.
i'm not an ER Doc, but i'm another dentist like Tooth and I have gotten my lawyer to draw up stuff for things like that.
(after your works is all done of course.... hehe)
10-30-11, 05:21 PM
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Well I wanted to give everybody a final update on the status of my PPE header install/CEL issues... I FINALLY got my issue resolved a few days ago thanks to Paul at PPE! (I probably had called/talked to him a dozen times over the last month trying to get things straightened out and he was always great!)
Anyway, so after the shop installed the O2 conditioner, it did not resolve the CEL issue... So we initialy thought the unit was bad and would need a different one, but Paul confirmed that the CEL codes were due to the front O2 sensors and not the rear ones which the O2 conditioner are for... So we then thought the front O2 sensors got damaged during the install and the shop gave their conditioned response "We didn't break it".... 
So I had to pay for new ones and they installed them ($600 later)... and STILL the same CEL codes... 
(the removed O2 sensors checked out ok too, so if anybody needs some, I'll sell for good price.)
So, Paul thought that possibly the front O2 sensor wiring harness extension that comes with the headers might be bad and have a short for some reason... so he quickly sent some new ones...
After install, the shop disclosed one of the original wiring harness had definite heat damage and melted wires from touching something hot.. (i suspect the headers), but after putting on the new ones, STILL the same CEL codes... so I'm like, WTF??? grrrr...
I call Paul and he said that the melted wires probably blew a fuse and that could be the culprit. So another trip to the shop and SURE ENOUGH, (even though they had said they were dubious that was the cause
) a fuse for the front AF ratio sensor was blown and after replacement.. FINALLY NO CEL'S!!!!! 
It was just in time too cause I went to the track that same day for my second track day experience and I was able to now have 1st gear back and able to disable VSC and trac control.
On a seperate note, the same shop installed some SS brake lines and put in racing brake fluid for less brake fade for track days (which definitely made a difference BTW!!!) but now I'm hearing, immediately after the intall, intermittent rubbing/high pitched vibration coming from what sounds like the front of the car.... I haven't mentioned it to the shop yet cause I'm sure they're gonna be like "JESUS!!" but does anybody have a clue what this could be?
I also had my high flow cats welded in by another shop.... I didn't end up using the V-Band clamps I had purchased from Jegs as the guy didn't like the clamp design and he recommended not using them and just welding them in permanently...
Anyway, so after the shop installed the O2 conditioner, it did not resolve the CEL issue...
So we initialy thought the unit was bad and would need a different one, but Paul confirmed that the CEL codes were due to the front O2 sensors and not the rear ones which the O2 conditioner are for... So we then thought the front O2 sensors got damaged during the install and the shop gave their conditioned response "We didn't break it".... So I had to pay for new ones and they installed them ($600 later)... and STILL the same CEL codes... (the removed O2 sensors checked out ok too, so if anybody needs some, I'll sell for good price.)So, Paul thought that possibly the front O2 sensor wiring harness extension that comes with the headers might be bad and have a short for some reason... so he quickly sent some new ones...
After install, the shop disclosed one of the original wiring harness had definite heat damage and melted wires from touching something hot.. (i suspect the headers), but after putting on the new ones, STILL the same CEL codes...
so I'm like, WTF??? grrrr... I call Paul and he said that the melted wires probably blew a fuse and that could be the culprit. So another trip to the shop and SURE ENOUGH, (even though they had said they were dubious that was the cause
) a fuse for the front AF ratio sensor was blown and after replacement.. FINALLY NO CEL'S!!!!! It was just in time too cause I went to the track that same day for my second track day experience and I was able to now have 1st gear back and able to disable VSC and trac control. On a seperate note, the same shop installed some SS brake lines and put in racing brake fluid for less brake fade for track days (which definitely made a difference BTW!!!) but now I'm hearing, immediately after the intall, intermittent rubbing/high pitched vibration coming from what sounds like the front of the car.... I haven't mentioned it to the shop yet cause I'm sure they're gonna be like "JESUS!!" but does anybody have a clue what this could be?
I also had my high flow cats welded in by another shop.... I didn't end up using the V-Band clamps I had purchased from Jegs as the guy didn't like the clamp design and he recommended not using them and just welding them in permanently...
10-30-11, 07:55 PM
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Hey Doc, That was really great that Paul diagnosed the problem over the telephone, a big to him. It's also odd that your install guy didn't come clean with their mistake and let you spend more money trying to solve a problem they caused. I'm glad it all worked out for you in the end
Lou
to him. It's also odd that your install guy didn't come clean with their mistake and let you spend more money trying to solve a problem they caused. I'm glad it all worked out for you in the endLou