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Old 09-09-11, 01:05 PM
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Have them check your water pump... to see if it's showing signs of excessive leaking at the weep holes.

If it is, have them install the new water pump while they are at it...

There is a new part number for it

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Old 09-09-11, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Z
Have them check your water pump... to see if it's showing signs of excessive leaking at the weep holes.

If it is, have them install the new water pump while they are at it...

There is a new part number for it

~ Joe Z
Thanks Joe, I'm going to have them change my water pump just in case.
Old 09-09-11, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ngl1145
Thanks Joe, I'm going to have them change my water pump just in case.
Old part # 16100-39505

was superseded by New part # 16100-39506.


Same pump is used on 3 other Lexus motors..

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Old 09-09-11, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Z
If it is, have them install the new water pump while they are at it...
...and headers!
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Sounds like semantics to me. Metallic tapping sound = ticking sound to me. The FJ made the noise once it got warm consistently. It sounded like a loose valve (if the engine had rocker arms, I would have sworn it was a valve), so they adjusted the valves three different times to no avail. And yes, a poorly adjusted rocker arm makes a "metallic tapping sound" because that's exactly what is happening. Metal on metal tick every time the valve opens because the lash is excessive. Unfortunately, bucket and shim engines never make ticking noises from the valve train. It's not possible.

I am surprised at the disassembly required to address this unless they already determined the valve lash to be correct. Considering the short roller rockers we have, it would seem quite possible the root cause is valve lash which does not require removing the heads to check or adjust.
I have personally been in touch with the area FST from Lexus, and I will say with confidence (as a ASE Master Tech myself) that they have little idea why this is happening, only that replacing the heads does cure this issue.
Too speak of this issue without hearing it in person it is hard to ascertain the severity of this problem. When the engine has reached "NOT" (normal operating temperature) the noise emitted from the engine is unmistakeable. The best that I can describe is if one were to drop a ball bearing into the cylinder and hear it be knocked around by the piston, it is a very definitive noise, in the sense that it is clearly NOT a valve lash issue, this is NOT a ticking noise it is a "ping" noise with a bit of randomness thrown in as in it comes and goes.
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Originally Posted by ngl1145
Here are some pictures of my engine at Lexus. It's not everyday you see the engine apart and thought I'd share some photos.


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That seems like a lot of carbon on the pistons. I thought there would be very little, if any.


I hope everything gets resolved.

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Originally Posted by stick
Originally Posted by ngl1145
Here are some pictures of my engine at Lexus. It's not everyday you see the engine apart and thought I'd share some photos.


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That seems like a lot of carbon on the pistons. I thought there would be very little, if any.


I hope everything gets resolved.
I was a bit surprised to see that as well when I first saw the engine. What do you think could have been the reason why there is such a buildup?

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^^^^I don't know, but I thought the port injection would keep it relatively clean.

lobux, any ideas?
Old 09-09-11, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Z
^^ That's next on my list.... Mind sharing what your ball park cost was for it???

Thanks ~ Joe Z
I'll dig up the paperwork tomorrow and let you know exactly. I used the guy in Kansas that others on CL have used.
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Youtube link updated.

Just curious if the dealer did the engine compression test or any other test to confirm the performance loss?

Hope they will get it right soon.

Originally Posted by ngl1145
Mine wasn't a "ticking" sound. It was a metallic tapping sound coming from the inside of the engine. I did notice performance loss as well in the engine recently. If you look at the link and hear the YouTube videos, you'll hear the sound that I'm talking about. I know the engine will have a ticking sound, but not an abnormal metallic tapping sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpwI0...layer_embedded
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Awesome photos of the engine!! Looks great. Goodluck with yur isf fix.
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^^^^I don't know, but I thought the port injection would keep it relatively clean.

lobux, any ideas?
I was going to say maybe the brand of Fuel...???

I use Chevron 91 with Techron, I wonder what my pistons look like ....


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Originally Posted by UCrazyKid
I'll dig up the paperwork tomorrow and let you know exactly. I used the guy in Kansas that others on CL have used.
Thanks, that would great.. Send me a pic if you like...


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Originally Posted by Joe Z
I was going to say maybe the brand of Fuel...???

I use Chevron 91 with Techron, I wonder what my pistons look like ....


~ Joe Z
Not a chance. Fuel impacts intake cleanliness, but unless your running kerosene, I wouldn't expect to see this much carbon build up in such a short time - unless the intake valve stem seals are doing a poor job, but if this were the case, you'd also see heavy coking on the intake valves on the port side. It would be instantly obvious to Lexus what the problem is.
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Originally Posted by stick
Originally Posted by ngl1145
Here are some pictures of my engine at Lexus. It's not everyday you see the engine apart and thought I'd share some photos.


3)


That seems like a lot of carbon on the pistons. I thought there would be very little, if any.


Are those impact marks on the passenger side rear most piston crown?

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