Pull the Whole motor to replace Headers???
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Dnt feel bad, as we were installing my headers, we found two of the outlets on the passenger side manifold were cracked as well....I dont think that the factory manifold was that thought through anyway do to the crappy outlet routings and prob cracked considering you have extreme header, transverse torque applied to manifold mounts as motor moves, and so thus you have flat clamps/brackets that pretting much clamp the inner portion of the manifold to the block..and they are quite thin.. (Im sure the guys at toyota.lexus ofcoarse have an amazing staff im just rambling incase anyone feels emotional about statement )..so I could see this could be a continous prob may dont know about or consider.. My headers were installed by a local lexus tech, and he killed it in less than 5 hours!
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I was thinking that marking the subframe and chassis would be a good help regarding subframe alignment as well. I am installing my headers this week and I will do so but I think checking alignment wouldn't hurt regardless.
I remember someone in another thread had mentioned a shop giving a crazy quote over $1,000 to install headers because they wanted to pull the motor. I think it's a commen misconception.
I remember someone in another thread had mentioned a shop giving a crazy quote over $1,000 to install headers because they wanted to pull the motor. I think it's a commen misconception.
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The 1st header which is my car=guinea pig , took about 4hrs and half because we had to modified the sikky dipstick a bit , plus being the 1st we had to make sure everything were correct. 2nd Sikky header install was like 3 hr half. 3rd header which was PPE , less than 3 hrs installed no issue with dipstick
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When we started talking about headers for the ISF years ago the only option for installation was pulling the engine, later on it was mentioned that installation could be performed from the bottom by dropping the subframe, and that's the route everyone is taking. Dealers may do manifold work pulling the engine, I don't have the Lexus/Toyota service manual to confirm.
As people have said, no matter how good you mark the subframe and steering components before installing the headers, you need to go through a four wheel alignment. The fact that your installer didn't do the alignment doesn't mean that the headers' installation was done it the right way.
Two more facts, PPE headers are easier, faster, and cleaner to install than Sikky's. Also PPE doesn't require the dipstick to be relocated at all.
BTW, my installation was done at a Lexus dealer and my comments are based on my conversation with the Lexus tech guys. In my case they installed the headers from the bottom, not pulling the engine.
As people have said, no matter how good you mark the subframe and steering components before installing the headers, you need to go through a four wheel alignment. The fact that your installer didn't do the alignment doesn't mean that the headers' installation was done it the right way.
Two more facts, PPE headers are easier, faster, and cleaner to install than Sikky's. Also PPE doesn't require the dipstick to be relocated at all.
BTW, my installation was done at a Lexus dealer and my comments are based on my conversation with the Lexus tech guys. In my case they installed the headers from the bottom, not pulling the engine.
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Thats great that I would not need an alignment when I get my headers installed. I probably just do an alignment anyway when my coilovers settled/sag. Im also having issues on my tires having outside wear.
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I plan on tackling this on my own in the garage so any or all info would be greatly appreciated
Keep up the tips and feedback guys! Plenty of useful info on this thread
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I think the last time I saw you though, you had HKS exhaust, and bronze TE37s? I think this was like....6 years ago...lol
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