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#2
http://www.frsport.com/Odyssey-PC680...y_p_16454.html
I know a few people are running this and I was getting ready to order one soon....
I know a few people are running this and I was getting ready to order one soon....
#3
Everything in Moderation
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Beware of GEL/AGM Batteries!
Beware!! Many people are recommending Optima Yellow Top and Odyssey and some other fancy expensive ones. Since 2002 I've been fighting batteries, it's my only car complaint. I started with a Yellow Top - died. Went to an Odyssey - died. Just had the second Odyssey DIE. I'm $600 into the battery companies. I just put in a Kirkland from Costco.
These deep-cycle batteries (gel/absorbed glass mat (AGM)) cannot take a deep discharge. I thought that's what the stinking things were for!!! I don't drive my car every day, sometimes it sits for a few. Once one of these batteries gets really discharged (and it doesn't take much), it may get partially sulfated, or one or more of the cells just doesn't come back to life, and may become a drain on the others. I even have the Odyssey charger that is the only type of charger you're supposed to use with Odysseys - the charger has a special cycle that supposedly can break up sulfation crystals if your battery is toasted. Well, doesn't seem to work very well.
The other thing is that I don't think they produce as much current as their regular wet-cell brothers. The Kirkland I have (made by Johnson Controls, same mfr. as Optima) seems to produce at least as much current as any of the batteries I've had.
I'm really thinking the Optima and Odyssey are really a bunch of horse-hooey. The Kirkland has a 3 year full replacement, before they even start to prorate it.
These deep-cycle batteries (gel/absorbed glass mat (AGM)) cannot take a deep discharge. I thought that's what the stinking things were for!!! I don't drive my car every day, sometimes it sits for a few. Once one of these batteries gets really discharged (and it doesn't take much), it may get partially sulfated, or one or more of the cells just doesn't come back to life, and may become a drain on the others. I even have the Odyssey charger that is the only type of charger you're supposed to use with Odysseys - the charger has a special cycle that supposedly can break up sulfation crystals if your battery is toasted. Well, doesn't seem to work very well.
The other thing is that I don't think they produce as much current as their regular wet-cell brothers. The Kirkland I have (made by Johnson Controls, same mfr. as Optima) seems to produce at least as much current as any of the batteries I've had.
I'm really thinking the Optima and Odyssey are really a bunch of horse-hooey. The Kirkland has a 3 year full replacement, before they even start to prorate it.
#4
^^^. Interesting..... I was thinking of getting the odyssey or this Braille battery....
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....atteries/b2618
Maybe not after this info....
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....atteries/b2618
Maybe not after this info....
#5
Everything in Moderation
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That said, I had a Panasonic/Toyota battery that was factory installed in my '03 4Runner that lasted 9 years and was still going. I just replaced it with a Kirkland/Costco because I didn't think it could possibly keep going much longer and I didn't want to wind up stranded.
#6
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^^^. Interesting..... I was thinking of getting the odyssey or this Braille battery....
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....atteries/b2618
Maybe not after this info....
http://www.braillebattery.com/index....atteries/b2618
Maybe not after this info....
I've spoken to both Optima and especially Odyssey tech support AT LENGTH, and had one of their actual tech experts on the phone for an hour. That's when they tell you the real story. The battery CANNOT be left to discharge to a point below about 10-10.5 volts. THAT's what they consider FULL DISCHARGE - that's a deep cycle. My Odyssey last week went down to 0.4V because I had left an interior map LED light on. The Odyssey charger would not even recognize that I had a battery hooked up to it. Enuf said.
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#8
Get the Lithium Ion batteries. They're 3-5 pounds. I'm STILL running my 3.5 pound home made lithium ion battery. I'm on version 2. My first one was perfectly fine for over 2 years. However, when I had it serviced and detailed, they drained the battery all the way down and killed some of the cells causing it to go out of balance. My new version has a cell balancer on it so all the cells are in balance and I'm contemplating adding an alarm that goes off when voltage is too low. Home made = 200 bucks, buying a lithium pack = $1000 and mine is only 3.5 pounds once again and it works through Chicago winters also.
#10
Lexus Champion
I have an Optima yellow top in every single car I've owned since I was 16 (4 cars), and all of them have out lasted me owning the car. The Yellow top in my IS F is now 3 years old...no problems.
#11
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^yep makes me wonder what people do with their cars...i never run the stereo with the engine off, even when I dont have aftermarket equipment installed. That might have worked in a 1993 Honda where the stock audio pulled around 10amps but even with a ML amp thats too much draw for me to take the risk of the car not starting and beating on the battery all the time.
#13
Lexus Champion
^yep makes me wonder what people do with their cars...i never run the stereo with the engine off, even when I dont have aftermarket equipment installed. That might have worked in a 1993 Honda where the stock audio pulled around 10amps but even with a ML amp thats too much draw for me to take the risk of the car not starting and beating on the battery all the time.
In my Acura TL I had previously, I had a 12" sub and a 1000watt Alpine V12 d-class amp (I'm being specific because some amps claim this is how much it's pulling and it pulls maybe 25% that), and I wouldn't say I had it cranked up, but maybe 30-40%. I could finish drying my whole car and i could still start up the car maybe an hour or so later.
In my IS F now, I have a 10" Alpine sub with 500watt Alpine d-class amp, I've yet to test how much I can get out of it...maybe i'll do it today.