Oil change without a filter
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I did my oil change for the first time yesterday. I believe the dealer over-torqued the filter housing and for the life of me I couldn't get it free. I ended up breaking the oil wrench and strip the housing.
My question is how good is the fresh oil without filter? Can I just replace the filter later without oil? I don't want to dump another 50 bucks for mobil1 again. I did countless oil changes before but this is the first one. Thx
My question is how good is the fresh oil without filter? Can I just replace the filter later without oil? I don't want to dump another 50 bucks for mobil1 again. I did countless oil changes before but this is the first one. Thx
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I did my oil change for the first time yesterday. I believe the dealer over-torqued the filter housing and for the life of me I couldn't get it free. I ended up breaking the oil wrench and strip the housing.
My question is how good is the fresh oil without filter? Can I just replace the filter later without oil? I don't want to dump another 50 bucks for mobil1 again. I did countless oil changes before but this is the first one. Thx
My question is how good is the fresh oil without filter? Can I just replace the filter later without oil? I don't want to dump another 50 bucks for mobil1 again. I did countless oil changes before but this is the first one. Thx
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Yep, this happened to a friend's F when he came over to my house to change the oil. I also broke a filter wrench
I replaced it with this:
I bolted a socket to the top to make it easier to use. I know this wont break
Never had the problem on my F or my wife's ES, because no one but me has ever changed the oil.
My friend ultimately went to the Lexus dealer and they loosened it up and changed the filter and oil. We did his next oil change without incident.
BTW, the drilling through the housing is really not a good idea. That aluminum filter housing is an expensive part.
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I bolted a socket to the top to make it easier to use. I know this wont break
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My friend ultimately went to the Lexus dealer and they loosened it up and changed the filter and oil. We did his next oil change without incident.
BTW, the drilling through the housing is really not a good idea. That aluminum filter housing is an expensive part.
Lou
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If it's too tight.... And you dont have the right tools ... (like below)
![](http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o304/caymandiver75/Misc/Blackstone%20Oil%20Reports/DSC_0071.jpg)
You can use one of these (like below) to break it free...
![](http://www.diseno-art.com/images_2/oil_filter_pliers.jpg)
Found just about everywhere..
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You can use one of these (like below) to break it free...
![](http://www.diseno-art.com/images_2/oil_filter_pliers.jpg)
Found just about everywhere..
~ Joe Z
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You can also tap on the flange with a hammer to break it free.
Even if I rounded off the flutes on the housing, I wouldn't drill it and screwdriver it. Time to buy a strap wrench.
I've been going 12k on oil and filter change for awhile now. You'll be fine waiting another 5k.
Even if I rounded off the flutes on the housing, I wouldn't drill it and screwdriver it. Time to buy a strap wrench.
I've been going 12k on oil and filter change for awhile now. You'll be fine waiting another 5k.
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Toyota put a tech tip out to dealers in Canada concerning the use of a proper SSTool so as not to strip the housings. The stamped steel units are the worst... but there are a couple of wrenches that work better than the rest... this one won't get stuck or strip. I suspect it will take stripped housings off even.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexus...item337f193899
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Toyota-Lexus...item337f193899
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