Brake Caliper Removal for Powdercoating Clarification
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Brake Caliper Removal for Powdercoating Clarification
Hi guys.
I wanted to compile a checklist for materials in regards to removing/reinstalling brake calipers. I have searched, and have a good understanding of the procedure, but want to ensure a 100% job when I DIY.
Can anyone chime in on everything that is required to remove brake calipers, have them independently overdecorated, and then reinstalled.
Thank you
I wanted to compile a checklist for materials in regards to removing/reinstalling brake calipers. I have searched, and have a good understanding of the procedure, but want to ensure a 100% job when I DIY.
Can anyone chime in on everything that is required to remove brake calipers, have them independently overdecorated, and then reinstalled.
Thank you
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FYI Brembo recommends not to powder coat there calipers you can have remove and spray paint calipers with appropriate high heat paint, you can buy heat spray paint such VHT one of best company out there and do them up or use high heat epoxy base paint like G2 caliper kit, but do not powder coat them. You can either remove calipers or leave them on if you paint them yourself, but if you leave them on make sure to properly mask everything off using painters tape and plenty of paper you don't want any over spray getting over unwanted areas.
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The reason why Brembo recommends against powder coat is because it acts as a heat insulator. If you car is mainly and DD and never really sees any track time, then powder coating is the best way to go. If you plan on tracking your car, then painting is the way to go.
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Thank you for this clarification. now of I can just figure out how to get custom colors :/
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I had mine professionally high temp painted. The shop that did them said they fully disassemble and powdercoat any and all brembo calipers on a weekly basis. Baking them at 400 degrees is of no danger, its the powder agent / heat insulator affect as mentioned above. Still, they laughed when I said how everyone is afraid to do anything advised against by Toyota (myself included in this case).
Disassembly of the calipers is simple - remove all bolts, pins, shims, pads and bleeder. Pop the piston seals out, remove pistons. Each piston has an INNER seal that must be removed and replaced as well. Sewell does not sell the inner seals...you will need to locate them thru Brembo which should be fun.
This is the prof. paint/clear I had done which only required the OUTER seals to be replaced. Pistons were not removed, just outter seals:
Disassembly of the calipers is simple - remove all bolts, pins, shims, pads and bleeder. Pop the piston seals out, remove pistons. Each piston has an INNER seal that must be removed and replaced as well. Sewell does not sell the inner seals...you will need to locate them thru Brembo which should be fun.
This is the prof. paint/clear I had done which only required the OUTER seals to be replaced. Pistons were not removed, just outter seals:
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I had mine professionally high temp painted. The shop that did them said they fully disassemble and powdercoat any and all brembo calipers on a weekly basis. Baking them at 400 degrees is of no danger, its the powder agent / heat insulator affect as mentioned above. Still, they laughed when I said how everyone is afraid to do anything advised against by Toyota (myself included in this case).
Disassembly of the calipers is simple - remove all bolts, pins, shims, pads and bleeder. Pop the piston seals out, remove pistons. Each piston has an INNER seal that must be removed and replaced as well. Sewell does not sell the inner seals...you will need to locate them thru Brembo which should be fun.
This is the prof. paint/clear I had done which only required the OUTER seals to be replaced. Pistons were not removed, just outter seals:
Disassembly of the calipers is simple - remove all bolts, pins, shims, pads and bleeder. Pop the piston seals out, remove pistons. Each piston has an INNER seal that must be removed and replaced as well. Sewell does not sell the inner seals...you will need to locate them thru Brembo which should be fun.
This is the prof. paint/clear I had done which only required the OUTER seals to be replaced. Pistons were not removed, just outter seals:
1. Can you do this yourself?
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2. Can you do this without removing the brakes? it is just more stuff to break lol
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Ugly pic but the color is similar-
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Thanks. I had them off the car since I'm upgrading to a bigger brake setup and they have been sold. But yes, to have them professionally done and completely painted I would rec. removing them from the car. Its a matter of what youre comfortable with and your skill set. You can have a decent job done with a good mask on the car but its just as much work and will cost more $ for labor in the end. The above was $200 bringing the calipers in off the vehicle.
Ugly pic but the color is similar-
Ugly pic but the color is similar-
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The service manual doesn't say don't powdercoat. It says never remove the pistons from the calipers. Replacing the seals is no big deal at all. As noted above, there are no pistons or internal seals available from Lexus/Toyota, so you are on your own if you scratch a piston or a bore, or if you damage one of the internal seals. The M6 caliper is available on Mercedes, but the Mercedes caliper uses different piston sizes, so the parts (if even available separately) from the Mercedes implementation will not fit.
If anything goes wrong, you get to buy a new caliper. That's the real downside to all of this.
If anything goes wrong, you get to buy a new caliper. That's the real downside to all of this.
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I think it would be a very good idea to make a DIY for this. I will try to make one myself, but I'll need some time Anyone else made one for painting calipers? If so, please post !
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You should be able to paint or powder coat without fully disassembling the caliper. Calipers can see up to 900 degree temps during severe high speed braking so a 400 degree powder coat bake should cause no damage at all. You would just need to remove the outer seal and then use high temp tape, which is sold through most powder coat companies, to tape over the outer seat and piston.
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If your caliper gets to 900F, your brake fluid will be boiling pretty badly. The best brake fluids boil at just over 600F. I don't disagree about 400F being pretty easy for the caliper to handle, but you really don't ever want the caliper over 500F in service or you're flirting with trouble.
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