Harsher but faster shifts in manual and sport mode
03-12-14, 09:11 AM
#16
i've actually never driven in manual + normal mode. felt that it kind of defeats the purpose of driving in manual. i actually NEVER drive the car in normal mode, anyway haha the first thing it do, i press the sport button right after the engine turns over.
03-12-14, 09:59 AM
#17
Thats a lot of questions. 
All I was trying to imply is that I didn't just join yesterday to come on a forum to stir the pot, be disruptive, or antiLexus. I was genuinely trying to find out why the car felt like crap when it would shift in manual mode. I understand now thats its related to the performance of the drivetrain, BUT to me it felt like something was wrong. The LS460 I had was far smoother. It was all about smooth and quiet operation. Sorry about the dumb questions. Its just a bit foreign to me coming from literally the other end of the Lexus lineup spectrum.
Thanks for the info guys.
BTW I did search for harsh shifting and came up with nothing good.
Just because you have owned 3 "high end" lexus vehicles, doesn't really mean much.. (what defines high end anyways? you named pretty much 3 of the 5 non-SUV vehicles Lexus makes)
Any non-F model will shift hard when in sport mode, its part of the fact that its difficult to have fast but smooth operation in a single clutch transmission. If you have driven any exotic car with dual clutch or single clutch transmission, they shift pretty hard at WOT.
I get it, you want to know why it shifts hard.. sure but the only reason why you [searched] harsh shifting and it came up with nothing is because its LOGICAL/common sense/technically sound to assume its because its a performance vehicle and shifts like this. Its like asking why Ferraris are so loud and makes high pitched sounds when you floor it, asking why a exotic vehicles have a hard time driving over speed bumps because of their low clearance and the same question as to why they shift so hard at WOT.
Just pointing out the obvious, which leads me back to why I was wondering.. "not sure if trolling"
03-12-14, 10:19 AM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
thank you. Not trying to ruffle any feathers. Just learning.
I love this damn car so much. I can feel what you are describing. Now that I know manual + sport changes things a lot I am driving like that from now on....at least when I want to have some fun. Drove it to work in manual +sport. Shifts still trip me out a bit but they are LIGHTING fast
starting to see that. I launched from a stop light this morning and I was literally yelling "WOOHOO" as I pulled away from the light
03-12-14, 10:22 AM
#19
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Keyword: LS460
Just because you have owned 3 "high end" lexus vehicles, doesn't really mean much.. (what defines high end anyways? you named pretty much 3 of the 5 non-SUV vehicles Lexus makes)
Any non-F model will shift hard when in sport mode, its part of the fact that its difficult to have fast but smooth operation in a single clutch transmission. If you have driven any exotic car with dual clutch or single clutch transmission, they shift pretty hard at WOT.
I get it, you want to know why it shifts hard.. sure but the only reason why you [searched] harsh shifting and it came up with nothing is because its LOGICAL/common sense/technically sound to assume its because its a performance vehicle and shifts like this. Its like asking why Ferraris are so loud and makes high pitched sounds when you floor it, asking why a exotic vehicles have a hard time driving over speed bumps because of their low clearance and the same question as to why they shift so hard at WOT.
Just pointing out the obvious, which leads me back to why I was wondering.. "not sure if trolling"
Just because you have owned 3 "high end" lexus vehicles, doesn't really mean much.. (what defines high end anyways? you named pretty much 3 of the 5 non-SUV vehicles Lexus makes)
Any non-F model will shift hard when in sport mode, its part of the fact that its difficult to have fast but smooth operation in a single clutch transmission. If you have driven any exotic car with dual clutch or single clutch transmission, they shift pretty hard at WOT.
I get it, you want to know why it shifts hard.. sure but the only reason why you [searched] harsh shifting and it came up with nothing is because its LOGICAL/common sense/technically sound to assume its because its a performance vehicle and shifts like this. Its like asking why Ferraris are so loud and makes high pitched sounds when you floor it, asking why a exotic vehicles have a hard time driving over speed bumps because of their low clearance and the same question as to why they shift so hard at WOT.
Just pointing out the obvious, which leads me back to why I was wondering.. "not sure if trolling"
I totally see your point now.
Sorry buddy
c. You are right 110%. LS460 here is the key word. Please forgive my response if I seemed a little defensive. I have been all over this forum for a looong time and I have never been called a troll. I can see how you thought that but remember you guys are ahead of me in understanding how the beast operates.
03-12-14, 11:56 AM
#20
My Suppressed Desire in my High School Yearbook (58 years ago) was:
"To Someday Own a Passanger Car that can accelerate from 0-60 in less than 5 seconds."
I finally achieved that goal
My point is, you have come to the F in a very strange way. And, please forgive me, but some of your posts are sort of annoying. I have responded to some, but for the most part have chosen to ignore them.
I have been a car guy all my life. My first real exposure to cars was in my Aunt and Uncle's Ford dealership in a small Massachusetts town. I vividly recall the excitement I felt when viewing the brand new 1946 Fords in the empty showroom on a Sunday afternoon.
My first experience with "luxury" automobiles was my fathers Buick Roadmasters and Oldsmobile 98s. I knew they would never be for me, and over the years, my mind and desires have never changed.
Again, I find it hard to understand the journey that brought you to the ISF. But whatever it was, welcome, and I promise to be more tolerant of your posts and I will try to share when I can be of help.
Lou
03-12-14, 01:58 PM
#21
Most of Us Guys, as you put it, came to the ISF in a completely different route than you. I am 75 years old, probably the senior member of this forum, and have never owned a vehicle that was not aimed at performance. They have covered the gamut from Flat Head Mercurys through GTOs, Boss Mustangs, Trans Ams, Porsches and etc. And all of them have been modified to some extent.
My Suppressed Desire in my High School Yearbook (58 years ago) was:
"To Someday Own a Passanger Car that can accelerate from 0-60 in less than 5 seconds."
I finally achieved that goal
My point is, you have come to the F in a very strange way. And, please forgive me, but some of your posts are sort of annoying. I have responded to some, but for the most part have chosen to ignore them.
I have been a car guy all my life. My first real exposure to cars was in my Aunt and Uncle's Ford dealership in a small Massachusetts town. I vividly recall the excitement I felt when viewing the brand new 1946 Fords in the empty showroom on a Sunday afternoon.
My first experience with "luxury" automobiles was my fathers Buick Roadmasters and Oldsmobile 98s. I knew they would never be for me, and over the years, my mind and desires have never changed.
Again, I find it hard to understand the journey that brought you to the ISF. But whatever it was, welcome, and I promise to be more tolerant of your posts and I will try to share when I can be of help.
Lou
My Suppressed Desire in my High School Yearbook (58 years ago) was:
"To Someday Own a Passanger Car that can accelerate from 0-60 in less than 5 seconds."
I finally achieved that goal
My point is, you have come to the F in a very strange way. And, please forgive me, but some of your posts are sort of annoying. I have responded to some, but for the most part have chosen to ignore them.
I have been a car guy all my life. My first real exposure to cars was in my Aunt and Uncle's Ford dealership in a small Massachusetts town. I vividly recall the excitement I felt when viewing the brand new 1946 Fords in the empty showroom on a Sunday afternoon.
My first experience with "luxury" automobiles was my fathers Buick Roadmasters and Oldsmobile 98s. I knew they would never be for me, and over the years, my mind and desires have never changed.
Again, I find it hard to understand the journey that brought you to the ISF. But whatever it was, welcome, and I promise to be more tolerant of your posts and I will try to share when I can be of help.
Lou
'back in my day', it was all about helping folks out when they had a question...no matter how mundane, simple or frequently asked. since i've been back, it seems some folks are just plain rude. and its not like i'm an old dude...i just remember how CL used to be.
and maybe its because im new to the F like I8, so i have some of the same questions as he does. but i noticed this on the 2nd gen GS forum, as well. just kinda disappointing to see how CL has 'evolved'....
03-12-14, 02:23 PM
#22
i guess i just dont know whats 'annoying' about any of his posts. maybe im just an old head...joined in 01, took a hiatus for about 10 yrs as i was experiencing other vehicles and returned about 3 yrs ago...but this community is so different than it used to be.
'back in my day', it was all about helping folks out when they had a question...no matter how mundane, simple or frequently asked. since i've been back, it seems some folks are just plain rude. and its not like i'm an old dude...i just remember how CL used to be.
and maybe its because im new to the F like I8, so i have some of the same questions as he does. but i noticed this on the 2nd gen GS forum, as well. just kinda disappointing to see how CL has 'evolved'....
'back in my day', it was all about helping folks out when they had a question...no matter how mundane, simple or frequently asked. since i've been back, it seems some folks are just plain rude. and its not like i'm an old dude...i just remember how CL used to be.
and maybe its because im new to the F like I8, so i have some of the same questions as he does. but i noticed this on the 2nd gen GS forum, as well. just kinda disappointing to see how CL has 'evolved'....
03-12-14, 03:02 PM
#23
What you say about evolved is actually members expecting other members to do their research.. use logic and common sense before posting something so basic. I do realize he searched but he needs to use some logic that this and high performance cars will all shift hard at WOT.
03-12-14, 03:09 PM
#24
We were all noobs at some point, lets move on.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
03-12-14, 03:21 PM
#25
We were all noobs at some point, lets move on.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
03-12-14, 03:58 PM
#26
We were all noobs at some point, lets move on.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
03-12-14, 04:15 PM
#27
most of my responses to these type of questions are usually "Let Me Google That For You" links, as I am a firm advocate of that saying, something about fish and teaching fishing to a man.
The search function should have yielded that the torque converter gets locked, causing this "harsh" shift. If the OP was unable to deduct that, again, there are plenty of online resources.
The issue with just explaining something that has been explained - makes forums like these less valuable. Imagine reading a book, where the first chapter and the last chapter goes over the same topic.
This car was released in 2008. Odds are, whatever question I have about this car is probably already answered/covered. I guess my expectations from this online resource is too high.
We were all noobs at some point, lets move on.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
03-12-14, 04:18 PM
#28
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Most of Us Guys, as you put it, came to the ISF in a completely different route than you. I am 75 years old, probably the senior member of this forum, and have never owned a vehicle that was not aimed at performance. They have covered the gamut from Flat Head Mercurys through GTOs, Boss Mustangs, Trans Ams, Porsches and etc. And all of them have been modified to some extent.
My Suppressed Desire in my High School Yearbook (58 years ago) was:
"To Someday Own a Passanger Car that can accelerate from 0-60 in less than 5 seconds."
I finally achieved that goal
My point is, you have come to the F in a very strange way. And, please forgive me, but some of your posts are sort of annoying. I have responded to some, but for the most part have chosen to ignore them.
I have been a car guy all my life. My first real exposure to cars was in my Aunt and Uncle's Ford dealership in a small Massachusetts town. I vividly recall the excitement I felt when viewing the brand new 1946 Fords in the empty showroom on a Sunday afternoon.
My first experience with "luxury" automobiles was my fathers Buick Roadmasters and Oldsmobile 98s. I knew they would never be for me, and over the years, my mind and desires have never changed.
Again, I find it hard to understand the journey that brought you to the ISF. But whatever it was, welcome, and I promise to be more tolerant of your posts and I will try to share when I can be of help.
Lou
My Suppressed Desire in my High School Yearbook (58 years ago) was:
"To Someday Own a Passanger Car that can accelerate from 0-60 in less than 5 seconds."
I finally achieved that goal
My point is, you have come to the F in a very strange way. And, please forgive me, but some of your posts are sort of annoying. I have responded to some, but for the most part have chosen to ignore them.
I have been a car guy all my life. My first real exposure to cars was in my Aunt and Uncle's Ford dealership in a small Massachusetts town. I vividly recall the excitement I felt when viewing the brand new 1946 Fords in the empty showroom on a Sunday afternoon.
My first experience with "luxury" automobiles was my fathers Buick Roadmasters and Oldsmobile 98s. I knew they would never be for me, and over the years, my mind and desires have never changed.
Again, I find it hard to understand the journey that brought you to the ISF. But whatever it was, welcome, and I promise to be more tolerant of your posts and I will try to share when I can be of help.
Lou
Sorry if my posts are annoying. Plus we are both in AZ and may meet up at Pavillions one day. Cant miss me . Red ISF with a driver who is 6'5" and 277LBS. Im a little bigger than your average guyi guess i just dont know whats 'annoying' about any of his posts. maybe im just an old head...joined in 01, took a hiatus for about 10 yrs as i was experiencing other vehicles and returned about 3 yrs ago...but this community is so different than it used to be.
'back in my day', it was all about helping folks out when they had a question...no matter how mundane, simple or frequently asked. since i've been back, it seems some folks are just plain rude. and its not like i'm an old dude...i just remember how CL used to be.
and maybe its because im new to the F like I8, so i have some of the same questions as he does. but i noticed this on the 2nd gen GS forum, as well. just kinda disappointing to see how CL has 'evolved'....
'back in my day', it was all about helping folks out when they had a question...no matter how mundane, simple or frequently asked. since i've been back, it seems some folks are just plain rude. and its not like i'm an old dude...i just remember how CL used to be.
and maybe its because im new to the F like I8, so i have some of the same questions as he does. but i noticed this on the 2nd gen GS forum, as well. just kinda disappointing to see how CL has 'evolved'....
What you say about evolved is actually members expecting other members to do their research.. use logic and common sense before posting something so basic. I do realize he searched but he needs to use some logic that this and high performance cars will all shift hard at WOT.
when youre right youre right We were all noobs at some point, lets move on.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
It takes 10 times the energy to complain about someone's question than to answer or (imagine this) just ignore it. There is such little action on ISF specific forum, i welcome the mundane questions because someone might actually post something intersting and new.
03-12-14, 04:29 PM
#30
No harm no foul...