USDM ISF ECU TUNE - FINAL STAGE! 2008-2013 Owner needed!
05-16-14, 12:59 PM
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Nigel I think what he is saying is that the price of this tune is substantially more expensive than what the Ferrrari guys are paying for a tune... for a brand new 458 Italia
I understand the monopoly aspect, but this could be very lucrative even if its a couple hundred more than the most expensive C63, and E92M3 tunes...
Everything else "looks" fantastic on paper
Nigel I think what he is saying is that the price of this tune is substantially more expensive than what the Ferrrari guys are paying for a tune... for a brand new 458 Italia
I understand the monopoly aspect, but this could be very lucrative even if its a couple hundred more than the most expensive C63, and E92M3 tunes...
Everything else "looks" fantastic on paper
What are prices for C63, E92?
I haven't a clue. I came from the Subaru world where an AccessPort and tune might cost $800ish.
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C63 tune for $1200. http://www.eurocharged.com/products/...oftware-detail
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05-16-14, 03:07 PM
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I believe they can and do. AFAIK, there was a recall (that I avoided) that updated the ECU so that if the brakes were applied with the gas pedal depressed, it would cut power to the engine. As I recall the fix was an ECU reflash done by the dealer.
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05-16-14, 03:27 PM
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^^^^It there were to be another recall, and the car was at the dealer, they would scan the VIN, and if a reflash were due, the dealer would do it, unless the owner specifically said Not To. As I said, I did not have my ECU reflashed. And during the recall I was called three times by service, requesting I bring my F in. I refused each time. Also, I do not think it is uncommon for a dealer to reflash an ECU as a diagnostic tool.
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
05-16-14, 04:32 PM
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^^^^It there were to be another recall, and the car was at the dealer, they would scan the VIN, and if a reflash were due, the dealer would do it, unless the owner specifically said Not To. As I said, I did not have my ECU reflashed. And during the recall I was called three times by service, requesting I bring my F in. I refused each time. Also, I do not think it is uncommon for a dealer to reflash an ECU as a diagnostic tool.
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
I gotta agree with those saying SARD missed the mark on price. Can't see many people jumping on this bandwagon for that price.
05-16-14, 04:37 PM
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^^^^It there were to be another recall, and the car was at the dealer, they would scan the VIN, and if a reflash were due, the dealer would do it, unless the owner specifically said Not To. As I said, I did not have my ECU reflashed. And during the recall I was called three times by service, requesting I bring my F in. I refused each time. Also, I do not think it is uncommon for a dealer to reflash an ECU as a diagnostic tool.
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
As far as a tampered ECU, Nigel has stated that the Saird reflash would be undetectable by the dealer.
Lou
05-16-14, 05:02 PM
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Do you want to debate semantics? The point is, it is my, and clearly many other peoples opinion that whoever is responsible for pricing this, missed the mark. And by that I mean what most of us seem to be willing to pay for an intangible item like an ecu flash. Is that better?
05-16-14, 05:43 PM
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Do you want to debate semantics? The point is, it is my, and clearly many other peoples opinion that whoever is responsible for pricing this, missed the mark. And by that I mean what most of us seem to be willing to pay for an intangible item like an ecu flash. Is that better?
05-16-14, 07:12 PM
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this...
Nigel I think what he is saying is that the price of this tune is substantially more expensive than what the Ferrrari guys are paying for a tune... for a brand new 458 Italia
I understand the monopoly aspect, but this could be very lucrative even if its a couple hundred more than the most expensive C63, and E92M3 tunes...
Everything else "looks" fantastic on paper
Nigel I think what he is saying is that the price of this tune is substantially more expensive than what the Ferrrari guys are paying for a tune... for a brand new 458 Italia
I understand the monopoly aspect, but this could be very lucrative even if its a couple hundred more than the most expensive C63, and E92M3 tunes...
Everything else "looks" fantastic on paper
I sell Ferrari and Lambo genuine parts too!
A Ferrari F458 Headlight is CHEAPER than Lexus LS600hL Headlight.
Can you believe it?
And how much is the LFA? For the price of the LFA, you can get other super car.
This is the price for Japanese tuner to tune the ISF.
Go to iCode, Novel etc.
David have a pm with me and they said the price is on spot from what Novel will charge him for the ECU reflash tune.
SARD Racing were NEVER intend to do the ECU flash for the U.S. market.
They did it because all of you guys are asking for it and we spent a year to do this project for the USDM ECU.
We still need 4 persons to test it before SARD Racing said ok for public release.
Also, if there is a price in the first post, this thread will be close!
No for sale thread allow in this section, we will have to go back to the vendor section.
I've seen this exact scenario happen on other platforms. Except with those cars you can just send the ecu back domestically, take it back to a local tuner, or in many cases flash it yourself depending on which platform.
I gotta agree with those saying SARD missed the mark on price. Can't see many people jumping on this bandwagon for that price.
I gotta agree with those saying SARD missed the mark on price. Can't see many people jumping on this bandwagon for that price.
All tuner in Japan are using the device provided by SARD.
They charge 200,000 - 350,000 YEN, depends on what they do with the reflash.
A speed limiter cancel device is 150,000 YEN and it only cancel the 180km speed limiter in Japan.
SARD Racing were never intend to deal with the U.S. market.
They did it because all of you guys are asking for it and we start to deal with them.
It is a special request project for them, and the job to do the USDM ECU is harder than the JDM.
The price for all Japanese tuner to tune the Lexus ECU are listed on their website and it is in 2.X - 3K range. (JDM Spec only)
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05-16-14, 07:21 PM
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I was just thinking.....Wouldn't they have this tune available in Australia already? If I'm right they have JDM spec cars down under, no? If that is the case, we do have members from Australia but I don't hear anything about this tune from them. That leads me to my next thought.....why don't any of the Lexus owners in Japan ever join/talk on this forum? We seem to have ISF owners from all over the world coming here but I don't ever recall any from Japan.
What I'm getting at is the idea that it would be nice to have someone in a part of the world that has Sard tune already give use some feedback. It has not been tested on a U.S. ECU but from my understanding this tune is not new for Japan and maybe Australia.
What I'm getting at is the idea that it would be nice to have someone in a part of the world that has Sard tune already give use some feedback. It has not been tested on a U.S. ECU but from my understanding this tune is not new for Japan and maybe Australia.