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Old 09-26-14, 10:54 AM
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Hi all

I have a 2012 isf. 2nd owners with 24000kms on it. I have my share of spirited driving but don't particularly bag on the car. No burn outs.

Since the first day I have had the car, I noticed that when I am at a stand still and start accelerating to execute a turn, it feels like my rear differential shutters. There is no weird noises. No clunks. Car runs very smooth otherwise.

Is this normal?
Old 09-26-14, 12:47 PM
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you certain is the rear diff? don't think that is too normal, although really tough to say without experiencing it first hand imo, maybe its like the tires?
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Not 100% sure but i thought it might be something to do with the LSD.

It's like the traction control cutting power to the wheels or something. Odd.
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I used to feel the same thing when I had my 2012 ISF, something that didn't happen on my 2008 ISF (no LSD).
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During slow tight turns under the right circumstances a LSD can break the rear tire(s) loose for a split second and might feel like a shutter. If you notice only certain turns do it, and if you can hear the tires chirp that would indicate to me normal LSD operation

The inside and outside wheels travel different distances during a turn. The LSD tries to balance the ratio so that the wheels travel smoothly like an open diff while also keeping power to both wheels like a locked diff. Sometimes it can't keep the proper ratio and the tires break loose

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shutter = stutter? No idea what shutter is unless it's a camera part.
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Lol lobux, how about a shudder?
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Originally Posted by 93MSB
During slow tight turns under the right circumstances a LSD can break the rear tire(s) loose for a split second and might feel like a shutter. If you notice only certain turns do it, and if you can hear the tires chirp that would indicate to me normal LSD operation

The inside and outside wheels travel different distances during a turn. The LSD tries to balance the ratio so that the wheels travel smoothly like an open diff while also keeping power to both wheels like a locked diff. Sometimes it can't keep the proper ratio and the tires break loose

Thanks for the explanation. That is what it feels like. And with my tires getting down to the replacement mark, it feels like it's easier to lose grip in the rear so perhaps what I am experiencing is the LSD/e-lsd under certain turns and giving it a bit more gas then the tires can grip?

My apologies, shudder..
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Not the eLSD. It does not operate below 20 mph according to the documentation on VDIM.
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Maybe I should take it in for a second opinion
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Super old thread but was this ever figured out? I have the exact same issue.
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The OEM Torsen LSD of 2012 is not noted for doing that under light throttle. However one fitted with an aftermarket clutch pack LSD it is pretty common. In short, the higher the load (heavier foot) and sharper the turn any LSD can induce some wheel slip depending on the level of traction or lack there of.

Because it's new to you (or not) I'd dump the fluid. The thing is is that a clutch style LSD has different fluid requirements! That said a visual inspection may be needed (what carrier assembly is in there, Torsen or clutch style) if there are no supporting documents.

FWIW eLSD needs a fair amount of slip before activation. Likely not related to this issue.

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Ive owned a lot of different cars with LSDs over the years and this doesnt seem uncommon when starting off accelerating with the wheel turned, especially if the fluid is still cold in the rear you can def get some shuddering but you can never be too safe.
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Originally Posted by Eurofreak
Super old thread but was this ever figured out? I have the exact same issue.
Really nothing to figure out:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...ing-noise.html

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...n-turning.html

Lou
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i have a 2012 and so did my buddy. both had the same behaviour. mine was doing that from the very first day of ownership, 14,000kms


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