Upgrading brakes
#1
Racer
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Upgrading brakes
The factory pads are a bit worn.....
Just ordered:
-StopTech front pads
-StopTech rear pads
-StopTech stainless lines (front and rear)
-StopTech Street brake fluid
Rotors were measured and are good.
Let me know what you think. I can take some photos of the install.
Just ordered:
-StopTech front pads
-StopTech rear pads
-StopTech stainless lines (front and rear)
-StopTech Street brake fluid
Rotors were measured and are good.
Let me know what you think. I can take some photos of the install.
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Hey Guys, not sure how you use your brakes, but I have tested the Stoptech pads on track days and I can tell you they will not hold up. I think that even the OEM Brembo pads are better. I personally like Hawk, particularly the new HP-Plus compound they have available for the IS-F Brembos.
We also just released this floating 2 piece Competition Rotor Upgrade, as well as titanium back plates, and 4 Piston rear brake caliper upgrade.
-Rafi
We also just released this floating 2 piece Competition Rotor Upgrade, as well as titanium back plates, and 4 Piston rear brake caliper upgrade.
-Rafi
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Hey Guys, not sure how you use your brakes, but I have tested the Stoptech pads on track days and I can tell you they will not hold up. I think that even the OEM Brembo pads are better. I personally like Hawk, particularly the new HP-Plus compound they have available for the IS-F Brembos.
We also just released this floating 2 piece Competition Rotor Upgrade, as well as titanium back plates, and 4 Piston rear brake caliper upgrade.
-Rafi
We also just released this floating 2 piece Competition Rotor Upgrade, as well as titanium back plates, and 4 Piston rear brake caliper upgrade.
-Rafi
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Though most of my focus in on testing track compounds, I have still tested and used a fair amount of aggressive street or "hybrid" compounds. The most relevant compounds I have direct experience with are Porterfield R4-S, Ferodo DS2500, Project Mu HC+ 800, Hawk HP+, Stoptech Street Perfomance and Endless MX72.
The stoptech streets are most definitely the best option for an aggressive street pad in that price range but if you're willing to spend more and/or place a larger emphasis on other characteristics in a pad then there is better out there. Ferodo DS2500 is similar to the stoptechs in terms of dust output but offers a slightly more aggressive initial bite and friction levels. The Hawk HP+ is pretty antiquated, IMO- it produces more dust and noise than many modern race compounds. It has a solid initial bite and friction levels for street tires but has a narrow operating temperature range and the heat tolerance is on the low side. Another thing I did not like about the HP+ is that when you push them past their maximum operating temperature they don't fade gradually like many other compounds… the friction levels just fall off a cliff. If you don't mind spending the money there is a clear winner in the category, though. The Endless MX72. It is one of the most versatile compounds- essentially being a street pad that possesses some race pad characteristics. We have been using these on a daily driver Audi S4 for over 20,000 miles including a many "spirited" mountain runs and even a few sessions at Thunderhill, Sonoma Raceway and Laguna Seca. They aren't track pads by any means but they hold up much better during really aggressive street use and on track than any street pad I've ever abused. Experienced track drivers should know to run full track pads but I can comfortably say that these would work well for pretty much all beginner to intermediate level drivers even on tracks that are hard on brakes. The performance exceeds anything in the category across the board but it does so without sacrificing the street manners and the day to day drivability- they are low dusting, noise free when properly bedded and seem to be lasting a while as well. The downside is the cost, they aren't cheap but nothing on this car is necessarily cheap and if you care about braking feel then I think its worth it. We carry all the brands mentioned and as always have additional discounts for our friends on here.
-Matt M.
The stoptech streets are most definitely the best option for an aggressive street pad in that price range but if you're willing to spend more and/or place a larger emphasis on other characteristics in a pad then there is better out there. Ferodo DS2500 is similar to the stoptechs in terms of dust output but offers a slightly more aggressive initial bite and friction levels. The Hawk HP+ is pretty antiquated, IMO- it produces more dust and noise than many modern race compounds. It has a solid initial bite and friction levels for street tires but has a narrow operating temperature range and the heat tolerance is on the low side. Another thing I did not like about the HP+ is that when you push them past their maximum operating temperature they don't fade gradually like many other compounds… the friction levels just fall off a cliff. If you don't mind spending the money there is a clear winner in the category, though. The Endless MX72. It is one of the most versatile compounds- essentially being a street pad that possesses some race pad characteristics. We have been using these on a daily driver Audi S4 for over 20,000 miles including a many "spirited" mountain runs and even a few sessions at Thunderhill, Sonoma Raceway and Laguna Seca. They aren't track pads by any means but they hold up much better during really aggressive street use and on track than any street pad I've ever abused. Experienced track drivers should know to run full track pads but I can comfortably say that these would work well for pretty much all beginner to intermediate level drivers even on tracks that are hard on brakes. The performance exceeds anything in the category across the board but it does so without sacrificing the street manners and the day to day drivability- they are low dusting, noise free when properly bedded and seem to be lasting a while as well. The downside is the cost, they aren't cheap but nothing on this car is necessarily cheap and if you care about braking feel then I think its worth it. We carry all the brands mentioned and as always have additional discounts for our friends on here.
-Matt M.
Last edited by SpeedFreaksUSA; 06-15-15 at 08:58 AM.
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Interesting feedback Speed Freak thanks.
How would you rate the Project Mu NS400 pads compared to the Fredo DS2500 and the HP+ or Endless MX72?
How would you rate the Project Mu NS400 pads compared to the Fredo DS2500 and the HP+ or Endless MX72?