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#16
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I disagree the steering response will be better. If the diameter was correct, I would agree, but there will be a discrepancy between tire center and center of rotation on the kingpin axis because these tires are not the same diameter. This is what scrub radius means, and it really changes the feel of the steering and can easily negatively impact mechanical grip while turning.
#17
That's my thought as well bc the diameter of the 245/35 is the same delta as the 235/40 (0.3", just in be opposite direction) while the 275/30 is 0.5" smaller than stock vs 0.3" larger for the 265/35, so the 275 is a bit worse in theory. And again, the 235/265 set up is exactly 0.3" larger than stock front and rear, keeping the revs/mile consistent front to back.
I'm kind of glad that the 235/265 is a bit larger in diameter than stock (although 0.3" is minimal), but this should not increase ride harshness compared to reducing diameter for the 245/275 set up.
Anyways, I think both are fine options, splitting hairs.
I'm kind of glad that the 235/265 is a bit larger in diameter than stock (although 0.3" is minimal), but this should not increase ride harshness compared to reducing diameter for the 245/275 set up.
Anyways, I think both are fine options, splitting hairs.
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That's my thought as well bc the diameter of the 245/35 is the same delta as the 235/40 (0.3", just in be opposite direction) while the 275/30 is 0.5" smaller than stock vs 0.3" larger for the 265/35, so the 275 is a bit worse in theory. And again, the 235/265 set up is exactly 0.3" larger than stock front and rear, keeping the revs/mile consistent front to back. I'm kind of glad that the 235/265 is a bit larger in diameter than stock (although 0.3" is minimal), but this should not increase ride harshness compared to reducing diameter for the 245/275 set up. Anyways, I think both are fine options, splitting hairs.
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If tire width has nothing to do with scrub radius, then why is it mentioned that the 235/265 combo is bad cuz the scrub radius is changed? Also, I'm still not sure what you mean when you say it's "much closer to stock diameter"? One is taller (235/265) than stock OD and the other (245/275) is shorter by the same amount
#22
That's my thought as well bc the diameter of the 245/35 is the same delta as the 235/40 (0.3", just in be opposite direction) while the 275/30 is 0.5" smaller than stock vs 0.3" larger for the 265/35, so the 275 is a bit worse in theory. And again, the 235/265 set up is exactly 0.3" larger than stock front and rear, keeping the revs/mile consistent front to back.
I'm kind of glad that the 235/265 is a bit larger in diameter than stock (although 0.3" is minimal), but this should not increase ride harshness compared to reducing diameter for the 245/275 set up.
Anyways, I think both are fine options, splitting hairs.
I'm kind of glad that the 235/265 is a bit larger in diameter than stock (although 0.3" is minimal), but this should not increase ride harshness compared to reducing diameter for the 245/275 set up.
Anyways, I think both are fine options, splitting hairs.
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LowBuxracer...
Running a 2012 factory BBS rim, how can such minimal change in overall height .3",
while staying within factory specs as far as ratio of front to rear,
have a noticeable detrimental effect on handling? <<<
we're looking at exactly 8 MM jump in both sizes
8MM is almost within variances of different tire brands and models of the same size if I recall
the OEM tires on the 2015 Lexus RC are these 235/265 sizes...
What exactly are the drawbacks to such a small change in height and width?
With people saying 245/275 which is a much greater change in and difference between front and rear as well, so those sizes, using the statements you made as a guide, should be even worse than the 235/265 =)
And, have you ever actually ran or driven ISF w/ 235/265 yourself?
Running a 2012 factory BBS rim, how can such minimal change in overall height .3",
while staying within factory specs as far as ratio of front to rear,
have a noticeable detrimental effect on handling? <<<
we're looking at exactly 8 MM jump in both sizes
8MM is almost within variances of different tire brands and models of the same size if I recall
the OEM tires on the 2015 Lexus RC are these 235/265 sizes...
What exactly are the drawbacks to such a small change in height and width?
With people saying 245/275 which is a much greater change in and difference between front and rear as well, so those sizes, using the statements you made as a guide, should be even worse than the 235/265 =)
And, have you ever actually ran or driven ISF w/ 235/265 yourself?
Last edited by Caliman; 05-08-16 at 11:45 AM.
#25
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I was in the same position until I got schooled with knowledge from LobuxRacer.
Proposed:
235/35/19 diameter 25.5" 817 revolutions per mile 91Y load rating
265/30/19 diameter 25.3" 822 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
OEM:
225/40/19 diameter 26.1" 797 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
255/35/19 diameter 26.0" 799 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What most of us are running:
245/35/19 diameter 25.8" 807 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
275/30/19 diameter 25.6" 814 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What I am running:
255/35/19 diameter 26.0" 799 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
275/30/19 diameter 25.6" 814 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What would be ideal:
295/30/19 on all four corners.
Proposed:
235/35/19 diameter 25.5" 817 revolutions per mile 91Y load rating
265/30/19 diameter 25.3" 822 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
OEM:
225/40/19 diameter 26.1" 797 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
255/35/19 diameter 26.0" 799 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What most of us are running:
245/35/19 diameter 25.8" 807 revolutions per mile 93Y load rating
275/30/19 diameter 25.6" 814 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What I am running:
255/35/19 diameter 26.0" 799 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
275/30/19 diameter 25.6" 814 revolutions per mile 96Y load rating
What would be ideal:
295/30/19 on all four corners.
#26
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Hey has anyone road course tracked their car with 255/35/19 all the way around? I've tracked my 11 ISF with stock sizes and I can tell I need more rubber up front. Michelin PSS tires. I'm curious if I go from 225 to 255 on the stock rim if it will actually hurt my front end grip?
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Hey has anyone road course tracked their car with 255/35/19 all the way around? I've tracked my 11 ISF with stock sizes and I can tell I need more rubber up front. Michelin PSS tires. I'm curious if I go from 225 to 255 on the stock rim if it will actually hurt my front end grip?
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