Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 Tires
#16
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Matt
I guess I'm a Tire junkie too. But I must take exception to your above statement. Tire Rack's user experience simply don't bear this out. See Attachments.
I am the happy user of S-04s and I can tell you that they are a GREAT Tire and that like some other things in life, size does matter. I am running the 255/295 combo on RCF wheels and the change in handling from my stock wheels with PS2 through S-04 in a 245/285 size to my current setup is night and day.
The RE760 is a Great tire in it's class, but certainly is not in the same league as the S-04.
Lou
I guess I'm a Tire junkie too. But I must take exception to your above statement. Tire Rack's user experience simply don't bear this out. See Attachments.
I am the happy user of S-04s and I can tell you that they are a GREAT Tire and that like some other things in life, size does matter. I am running the 255/295 combo on RCF wheels and the change in handling from my stock wheels with PS2 through S-04 in a 245/285 size to my current setup is night and day.
The RE760 is a Great tire in it's class, but certainly is not in the same league as the S-04.
Lou
In any case I prefer harder objective data. If I've learned anything testing tires for competition over the years it's that you don't know for sure until the stopwatch tells you. As far as the RE760 vs S-04 debate, I have used both and am certain the RE760 is the faster/grippier tire (albeit not by much) despite being in the lower performance class and with a higher UTQG rating. It also feels a little better being driven aggressively since the tread blocks are a little bigger/more rigid and the casing/sidewalls are a little stiffer. The downside is that the RE760 compromises on the compliance and road noise compared to the S-04. I don't disagree that the S-04 is a great street tire and for daily driving it is without question the more well-rounded and refined tire. But around a track or for really aggressive driving it trails the RE760 and undoubtedly this new Firestone branded (ugh ) Bridgestone Potenza RE003.
Just took a look and even TireRack's objective test data has the RE760 ahead of the S-04 in terms of dry lap time, dry stopping distance, dry slalom time, and average cornering g-force.
Again, I say if the concern is on raw performance figures then the category and UTQG ratings (within reason) start to mean very little, if anything.
-Matt M.
Last edited by SpeedFreaksUSA; 05-23-16 at 04:39 PM.
#17
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Looks interesting . Tread pattern looks like the shoulder have some sporting intentions. I have learned A LOT about tread design and characteristics over the last 2-3 years. Not available in my size and Im sticking with the Yokohama AD08R or moving up to the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 or Pirelli Corsa tires ( tread wear is 60 I think lmao) . I dont mod my car much so I just **** the money away on tires TRUTH LMAO . I am finding that there is nothing new coming in my 255/295 sizes
I ran the original Pirelli Corsas on my M3 and was very disappointed in how slow they were and how quickly they wore. I don't know if it's the same with the newer corsa asymmetrico 2 but the original corsa asymmetrico couldn't keep up with even a last generation EHP street tire around a track and was wearing at more than double the rate of one too... waste of money but I guess you don't know until you try.
I just picked up a set of Trofeo Rs to try out. Those are supposed to be 1-2 seconds off the pace of a Hoosier R6 at a typical 2 minute track but I've heard mixed things about the wear rate. I'll make sure to pass on my impressions to you after I give them a good beating at the track, if you'd like.
-Matt M.
Last edited by SpeedFreaksUSA; 05-23-16 at 04:29 PM.
#18
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I think what SpeedFreeks is saying here is that, much like UTQG tread-wear ratings, size is not as simple as what is printed on the side of the tire. One manufacturers 255 is not necessarily the same width as another manufacturers 255. In particular Nitto is known for really exaggerating their sizes: http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...more-grip.aspx
#23
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Matt
I guess I'm a Tire junkie too. But I must take exception to your above statement. Tire Rack's user experience simply don't bear this out. See Attachments.
I am the happy user of S-04s and I can tell you that they are a GREAT Tire and that like some other things in life, size does matter. I am running the 255/295 combo on RCF wheels and the change in handling from my stock wheels with PS2 through S-04 in a 245/285 size to my current setup is night and day.
The RE760 is a Great tire in it's class, but certainly is not in the same league as the S-04.
Lou
I guess I'm a Tire junkie too. But I must take exception to your above statement. Tire Rack's user experience simply don't bear this out. See Attachments.
I am the happy user of S-04s and I can tell you that they are a GREAT Tire and that like some other things in life, size does matter. I am running the 255/295 combo on RCF wheels and the change in handling from my stock wheels with PS2 through S-04 in a 245/285 size to my current setup is night and day.
The RE760 is a Great tire in it's class, but certainly is not in the same league as the S-04.
Lou
#25
Can you offer an update on how these tires are working out? Thanks!
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#29
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i can only compare these to the evo2 I had on the wheels before. They are definitely better gripping tires compared. They are decent in the rain and wet conditions. My biggest complaint about these tires is how dirty they make the car. I cannot say how these do on the track but I have taken these on a few twisty roads and the do hug the road. For the price, these tires are a very good deal. I would probably buy these again if they indeed hold up to the amount of time the evo2s held up.
#30
i can only compare these to the evo2 I had on the wheels before. They are definitely better gripping tires compared. They are decent in the rain and wet conditions. My biggest complaint about these tires is how dirty they make the car. I cannot say how these do on the track but I have taken these on a few twisty roads and the do hug the road. For the price, these tires are a very good deal. I would probably buy these again if they indeed hold up to the amount of time the evo2s held up.