Wanting opinions. Get 2011+ ISF or CTS-V.
05-20-16, 01:08 PM
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You had an Is-F previously.
You can get the V Caddy as a coupe, sedan & wagon. The automatic has only 6 speeds, but you can get a manual.
The rear seats have much more leg & shoulder room.
There seem to be lots more of 'em available... at least where I live.
And I've witnessed 'em (manuals) turn 11.0 sec. et's with full bolt-ons (headers, pulleys, & tune) & slicks.
I'm currently trying to talk my brother-in-law (lifelong Chevy guy) into getting a 6 sp wagon to take to the drags.
I say go for the Cadillac. How long do you think cheap fuel prices will last.
For me, though, it's the Isf.
You can get the V Caddy as a coupe, sedan & wagon. The automatic has only 6 speeds, but you can get a manual.
The rear seats have much more leg & shoulder room.
There seem to be lots more of 'em available... at least where I live.
And I've witnessed 'em (manuals) turn 11.0 sec. et's with full bolt-ons (headers, pulleys, & tune) & slicks.
I'm currently trying to talk my brother-in-law (lifelong Chevy guy) into getting a 6 sp wagon to take to the drags.
I say go for the Cadillac. How long do you think cheap fuel prices will last.
For me, though, it's the Isf.
05-20-16, 06:13 PM
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I wouldnt touch a CTSV as tempting as they are. Any time I do any forum research on them I find 2 things. 1. they are powerful and easy to make added power 2. They are at the dealership all the time. A recent F owner who traded for a V said it was not nearly as reliable as the F and the service quality is not as good either.
05-20-16, 06:57 PM
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I wouldnt touch a CTSV as tempting as they are. Any time I do any forum research on them I find 2 things. 1. they are powerful and easy to make added power 2. They are at the dealership all the time. A recent F owner who traded for a V said it was not nearly as reliable as the F and the service quality is not as good either.
I drove an automatic coupe in CA once, MONSTER engine, but I agree with the others, if the car spends more time on the rack, then what's the point?
I'd say get back into the ISF, if you want more power, than mod it.
05-20-16, 09:25 PM
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I traded my 2011 F in on a 2012 CTS-V 6 speed manual sedan and I love it. This so called engine issue is all bull****. It's a rattle in the supercharger that occurs in some cars and GM replaces them for free up to 10 yrs or 120k miles. They give u loaner car and it's a very quick turnaround. I daily drive my V and have had no issues. If u want to ask me any questions go ahead and PM me before u buy a V. I will tell u what to look for.
05-20-16, 11:15 PM
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I traded my 2011 F in on a 2012 CTS-V 6 speed manual sedan and I love it. This so called engine issue is all bull****. It's a rattle in the supercharger that occurs in some cars and GM replaces them for free up to 10 yrs or 120k miles. They give u loaner car and it's a very quick turnaround. I daily drive my V and have had no issues. If u want to ask me any questions go ahead and PM me before u buy a V. I will tell u what to look for.
05-21-16, 11:01 AM
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If you want a car that will FEEL more well balanced, funner to daily throwing it around corners and more "reliable" get the ISF
If you want a power house and a V8 that's actually worth something get the V.
The 2nd gen V is a great handler in stock form and it's nicely balanced from factory but it's nowhere near as fun as the F. The V interior feels cheaper quality although looks nicer in pictures. Pro side of the V is although not as "reliable" you can find parts at your local auto parts store for dirt cheap and the engines been around for decades and very simple so it's really easy to work on. For the same price we F owners are trying to pass 400 whp you can easily make close to double that with the V. (Brother is making 800+ daily driver)
If I could do it all over I would get the V but the F still makes me very happy.
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05-21-16, 04:37 PM
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So my older brother has a CTSV and I drive an 08 Isf. I understand you're looking at a newer Isf but I've driven both and really it's the same crap just a little smoother and more refined.
If you want a car that will FEEL more well balanced, funner to daily throwing it around corners and more "reliable" get the ISF
If you want a power house and a V8 that's actually worth something get the V.
The 2nd gen V is a great handler in stock form and it's nicely balanced from factory but it's nowhere near as fun as the F. The V interior feels cheaper quality although looks nicer in pictures. Pro side of the V is although not as "reliable" you can find parts at your local auto parts store for dirt cheap and the engines been around for decades and very simple so it's really easy to work on. For the same price we F owners are trying to pass 400 whp you can easily make close to double that with the V. (Brother is making 800+ daily driver)
If I could do it all over I would get the V but the F still makes me very happy.
If you want a car that will FEEL more well balanced, funner to daily throwing it around corners and more "reliable" get the ISF
If you want a power house and a V8 that's actually worth something get the V.
The 2nd gen V is a great handler in stock form and it's nicely balanced from factory but it's nowhere near as fun as the F. The V interior feels cheaper quality although looks nicer in pictures. Pro side of the V is although not as "reliable" you can find parts at your local auto parts store for dirt cheap and the engines been around for decades and very simple so it's really easy to work on. For the same price we F owners are trying to pass 400 whp you can easily make close to double that with the V. (Brother is making 800+ daily driver)
If I could do it all over I would get the V but the F still makes me very happy.
05-21-16, 04:44 PM
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Actually I just registered on one of their forums to ask the same questions because yes I know it would be a biased opinion but I was hoping that maybe some of the members here may have owned one before that could give the own personal input and comparison. I'm actually leaning more towards the ISF because of reliability because honestly I don't have the money to keep paying for the car to be in the shop. Thanks for your opinion.
05-23-16, 02:01 PM
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If you go to their forums they are all going to say great things like we do on here.
Its really just an opinion. If you want to upgrade past the hp the F can do then do it but there is also a cost to that. Rack time at the shop.
I love the isf and knowing that reliability there is priceless to me. Yes I wish we could do more mods but the things is pretty quick as it sits. Now there is a tune and looks to be a SC kit.
In the end GM vehichels to me are junk. Never owned one but friends do. Lot of issues, wiring and mechanical.
In the end these are all opinions go with your gut.
I got a is300 as well. Slow as s***t but I beat the hell out of it as a DD and I have only had to replace the breaks. 226k and clocking.
Its really just an opinion. If you want to upgrade past the hp the F can do then do it but there is also a cost to that. Rack time at the shop.
I love the isf and knowing that reliability there is priceless to me. Yes I wish we could do more mods but the things is pretty quick as it sits. Now there is a tune and looks to be a SC kit.
In the end GM vehichels to me are junk. Never owned one but friends do. Lot of issues, wiring and mechanical.
In the end these are all opinions go with your gut.
I got a is300 as well. Slow as s***t but I beat the hell out of it as a DD and I have only had to replace the breaks. 226k and clocking.
05-23-16, 02:18 PM
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I have owned and do own GM vehicles every time I say "never again" then I get sucked in and and I am right back to never again shortly after. I don't have a caddy but I have had a couple GM Denalis including our current Acadia Denali that is a total pile of crap vs imports. It looked good and had awesome features but at the end of the day it's a typical GM with tons of road noise, poor fit and finish (it clunks and bangs right from new and they claim "they all do that") I also find at GM/caddy dealers they still treat you like you are bringing your cavalier or what ever thier entry level is now. They argue with me and do 1/2 assed service jobs and I have tried several dealers now. Had 4 free oil changes when I purchased the vehicle they actually threatened to void my warranty if I didn't pay for a $100 inspection with my "free oil change" I almost had the girl reduced to tears when she spit that line out at me... By the end she said "sir I just work here" another place they tried up selling me to get my trans fluid changed in 1/2 the interval the service manual recommend I asked to see his sheet and it looked legit all printed out with recommendations but when I checked the owners manual nothing matched up. When I go to Lexus or even in the past BMW they at least treat you like you're not cattle that they are trying to get in and out as quick as possible. I wanted a CTS-V wagon in the worst way but I am back to telling myself "never another GM"
05-23-16, 03:51 PM
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What about like a 2012 e63 biturbo, not sure reliability wise or on what insurance costs are on those but you can easily get one in that price range plus I hear with a basic tune they push 600+ whp