Sikky V2 Header Exhaust Comparison (Now on sale)
01-06-17, 02:17 PM
#46
I've been on the forum just long enough to see the bias towards and against certain companies. Most seems unwarranted.
Its a new product id give it some time for third party data prior to lighting the torches quite yet. I've seen the same on the M forums who bashed on TTFS to high hell in support of the other tuners.
Its a new product id give it some time for third party data prior to lighting the torches quite yet. I've seen the same on the M forums who bashed on TTFS to high hell in support of the other tuners.
01-06-17, 05:06 PM
#47
It's probably pretty safe to assume that, all things being equal, these headers and the PPE headers, long tube, short tube, whatever, are all essentially within the margin of error of one another when compared apples to apples Taking other mods into consideration.
01-07-17, 07:25 AM
#48
^^^^You can't really make a statement like that with no backup. I looked up your 30 posts and found this thread you started:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...ml#post9595914
The graph posted in that video makes no sense as I explained on page two of that thread.
Again, I have no doubt Sikky headers do make power, the stock design is so bad, that any header would be improvement. But, the graph posted in your thread is bogus.
Lou
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...ml#post9595914
The graph posted in that video makes no sense as I explained on page two of that thread.
Again, I have no doubt Sikky headers do make power, the stock design is so bad, that any header would be improvement. But, the graph posted in your thread is bogus.
Lou
01-07-17, 12:30 PM
#49
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We've done these tests in "bone stock" cars and gotten similar results (I'll link you another thread below). This specific car came in with the mods listed in the original post and as said by the owner. We then installed our headers and then re dyno'd the car to see what the difference was. We then installed the borla cat back and re dyno'd the car to see what the specific gains were. I feel like this is as clear and transparent as we can be. Below is a link to a thread were we tested it on a bone stock car (this is an RCF).
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-...l-headers.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/cl-...l-headers.html
01-07-17, 12:52 PM
#50
I was excited when I read +45, then let down when the owner, not the company, told us it had a tune that only helped the headers. I agree that if it were only the tube (like in the link) it would be "bone stock" enough but the tune is an added variable. That would have been something you preferred on the hush hush, therefore not transparent. The link is for the new RCF 5.0 which we expect to run better with the 1 7/8" than our cars. So the 43 peak WHP is awesome but probably unattainable on this motor. From that graph I also see that at 3800 RPM the numbers are 100HP under stock, which makes sense and comes with the territory. I'll just wait to see a better test before I accept 45WHP is gained from the headers alone, I'm sure it'll be close and they look amazing.
01-07-17, 08:00 PM
#51
To be fair though when you're modding your car you're probably going to get the tune anyway. If you had to choose one or the other I'm sure most people would get the tune first before having your car being super loud and smelly. RR is pretty well known in this forum. I can't imagine people nowadays going the headers route and then stopping there. Maybe that'd be the case if this was like 2012 or something where there was no tune.
01-07-17, 08:13 PM
#53
You can't even run the intake without the tune. Come on guys ease off the witch hunt. Why so anti Sikky? If I'm not mistaken RR just released the dyno chart for their SC and I didn't see many people calling them out with skepticism.
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01-07-17, 09:04 PM
#55
Don't discount the importance of transparency especially if one is selling a product or service. That's like disregarding the fine print to see that doing so could bite you in your butt because you didn't look at the details.
01-07-17, 09:33 PM
#56
There's a difference between probably running a tune and then running an intake that requires a tune. The forum is just very biased towards certain vendors. Which is nothing new. M forums is the same way.
01-07-17, 09:35 PM
#57
"probably" is the key word because not everyone here runs a tune even with headers.
Don't discount the importance of transparency especially if one is selling a product or service. That's like disregarding the fine print to see that doing so could bite you in your butt because you didn't look at the details.
Don't discount the importance of transparency especially if one is selling a product or service. That's like disregarding the fine print to see that doing so could bite you in your butt because you didn't look at the details.
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01-07-17, 09:47 PM
#58
I have a lot of respect for Rafi and the rr racing team though and for what they are doing for the Lexus community. But at the end of the day, they are running a business, and the whole point of a business is to be profitable and make money...So I don't blame them for marketing their products the way they do.
And I too, do not understand the hate on Sikky. PE isn't the only company that can make functioning headers for the ISF/RCF/GSF.
I really want to try these headers out. A new breath of fresh air for the F, literally!!
V.