Figs or RR Racing LCA bushing?
03-30-21, 01:22 PM
#76
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Noise/Vibration/Harshness...^^^^^^
03-30-21, 04:18 PM
#77
Moderator
I have the RR model and it didn’t increase noise. At one point, it loosened up a bit and I got some noise. After I retorqued it down, no further noise. I have exhaust and headers, so my car makes enough noise to hide any minor flaws that may exist.
03-30-21, 06:30 PM
#78
I had RRRacing 95 Duro on my ISF. NVH increased slightly but was no way uncomfortable. The handling upgrade more than made up for the slight increase. I posted this three years ago:
Lou
As far as my RRRacing "A" Arm USRS bushings, I have reported a slight increase in NVH. Certainly not much, but the decrease in nose dive and the increasing in handling and control more than made up for the slight NVH increase. They have been installed for 3 years now.
As far as my old bushings were concerned. I sold them to an IS350 owner who was happy to get them.
As far as my old bushings were concerned. I sold them to an IS350 owner who was happy to get them.
03-31-21, 06:23 AM
#79
-Nigel
03-31-21, 07:13 AM
#80
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I say this kindly, but your over thinking this. I didn’t even notice an increase in NVH, but my car was lowered and had headers and exhaust with low profile tires at the time. Unless your seriously tracking, minor deflection won’t matter. Figs knows their stuff, they didn’t make a defective bushing. If your just driving on the street, buy the cheapest one and enjoy it. If your tracking the car, buy the race version. You really can’t go wrong buying from either company on this particular part.
I have the original RR piece on my ISF. It’s going on my IS350, and I’m buying the new race version from Figs for the ISF.
If anyone thinks these increase NVH too much, they shouldn’t be modifying cars. Their expectations are OEM lexus.
I have the original RR piece on my ISF. It’s going on my IS350, and I’m buying the new race version from Figs for the ISF.
If anyone thinks these increase NVH too much, they shouldn’t be modifying cars. Their expectations are OEM lexus.
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03-31-21, 11:34 AM
#81
Back in 2016 I researched them vs the USRS extensively on the IS350/ISF FB groups and Club Lexus pages and other forums and it got a little heated when some got offended if customers would say they added NVH even though time after time more than a few reported that USRS had more NVH and went to Figs and experienced less of it. I went with Figs 90 for my 08 ISF of 3 years 70k and same but new set for my 12 ISF now 1.5 years and 20k or so. Have had no issues and no squeaks driving in the winter or summer. At the time I was doing higher miles annually, and it was a fine line of modding as much as I could without adding harshness or losing comfort.
That being said, one may need extra lube once a year, but the difference is insignificant. Both are solid products and if you want more feel/sportiness both companies offer stiffer options. As I recall, both are willing to price match each other as well if price is an issue. I have been often told that higher end coilovers or suspension parts or even fluids will have more strict maintenance intervals, but goes with the territory of higher performing products.
That being said, one may need extra lube once a year, but the difference is insignificant. Both are solid products and if you want more feel/sportiness both companies offer stiffer options. As I recall, both are willing to price match each other as well if price is an issue. I have been often told that higher end coilovers or suspension parts or even fluids will have more strict maintenance intervals, but goes with the territory of higher performing products.
03-31-21, 12:08 PM
#82
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To be fair about all this, a tremendous amount of the difference will depend on the roads you normally drive. Where I live the roads are mostly good, and on good roads, you can run solid bushings and not be too irritated. Where my dad lives in Iowa, I wouldn't change anything from the factory, and I'd probably fit 18" wheels with taller sidewalls for more cushion because the roads are massively cracked concrete in many places and solid bushings would cause kidney damage.
I have solid bushings on my car. They're noticeably noisier over sharp bumps. Anywhere else I can't tell the difference. So if you have glassy smooth roads, any of these bushings will be just fine. If your roads look like a lunar landscape, all of them will be more noisy than the OEM squishy donut, and there are a number of threads from owners in this forum asking about taller sidewall tires to improve ride quality. I can understand why that is when the roads are cratered where you live.
I have solid bushings on my car. They're noticeably noisier over sharp bumps. Anywhere else I can't tell the difference. So if you have glassy smooth roads, any of these bushings will be just fine. If your roads look like a lunar landscape, all of them will be more noisy than the OEM squishy donut, and there are a number of threads from owners in this forum asking about taller sidewall tires to improve ride quality. I can understand why that is when the roads are cratered where you live.
03-31-21, 01:18 PM
#83
Appreciate all the information. I am totally over thinking it..hahah I just don't want to turn something into "damn, this isn't enjoyable to drive anymore" experience. I tend to start and then it continues to keep going in that direction.
Totally agree both companies seem like they've got the something for everyone which is nice. I'm waiting for the salt to be off the roads here so a few more weeks of rain and I'll take the car back out and see how or what I'm looking for. I haven't driven the car now in almost two months so I kind of forget what it actually feels like on the road ;-p I'll definitely post pics though once I get a set and install them and post back my thoughts on it.
A lot of the roads here in VA aren't bad... go up to MD and it's awful. Go into DC and good luck...lol. If I went up to Pittsburgh to see my mom it's pothole city up there.
-Nigel
Totally agree both companies seem like they've got the something for everyone which is nice. I'm waiting for the salt to be off the roads here so a few more weeks of rain and I'll take the car back out and see how or what I'm looking for. I haven't driven the car now in almost two months so I kind of forget what it actually feels like on the road ;-p I'll definitely post pics though once I get a set and install them and post back my thoughts on it.
A lot of the roads here in VA aren't bad... go up to MD and it's awful. Go into DC and good luck...lol. If I went up to Pittsburgh to see my mom it's pothole city up there.
-Nigel
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02-26-22, 08:10 PM
#89
I've got an RCF so he only makes then with the 90 for my application short of going solid/race LCA bushings.
I feel 90 is perfect only because it didn't introduce NVH. 80 would be even softer but if these were harsh in the least I'd have swapped them already. I wanted to keep the Lexus feel/ride quality/comfort.
-Nigel
I feel 90 is perfect only because it didn't introduce NVH. 80 would be even softer but if these were harsh in the least I'd have swapped them already. I wanted to keep the Lexus feel/ride quality/comfort.
-Nigel
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02-26-22, 08:52 PM
#90
I've got an RCF so he only makes then with the 90 for my application short of going solid/race LCA bushings.
I feel 90 is perfect only because it didn't introduce NVH. 80 would be even softer but if these were harsh in the least I'd have swapped them already. I wanted to keep the Lexus feel/ride quality/comfort.
-Nigel
I feel 90 is perfect only because it didn't introduce NVH. 80 would be even softer but if these were harsh in the least I'd have swapped them already. I wanted to keep the Lexus feel/ride quality/comfort.
-Nigel