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Old 04-22-18 | 08:45 PM
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I Need to replace front swaybar end links, I guess even i only have 21,000 miles on my ISF, my country roads and doing track days has made the original ones die early on.

I was thinking on going with the figs adjustable ones, it kind of make sense to me that with the car lowered the oem ones will apply some preload in comparison with these ones were you can adjust them to fit and have a cero preload allowing a neutral balance to the sway bar.

Or should i stick to the OEM ones?

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There is no preload on swaybars. If there is, something is desperately wrong. The adjustment in the links allow you to set the bar "neutral" with the suspension at the ride height you've selected. If you have lowered the car, and know how to set the bar to a neutral position with adjustable links, you'd be better off with adjustable units. If not, just buy stock pieces and install them.
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There is no preload on swaybars. If there is, something is desperately wrong. The adjustment in the links allow you to set the bar "neutral" with the suspension at the ride height you've selected. If you have lowered the car, and know how to set the bar to a neutral position with adjustable links, you'd be better off with adjustable units. If not, just buy stock pieces and install them.
Thanks Lance. Now if you do a google search on "preload on sway bar", it seems its something that do exists. ill go with the adjustable ones and try to set it on cero preload, otherwise oem endlinks will most likely put a preload on the sway bar besides they will not last long because of the change in the suspension geometry due to the lowered car.

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It certainly can exist, but it's a band aid on a band aid. Not something I would do to a car intended to turn both left and right. I would definitely do it to a left turn only car where I have limited ability to change spring rates though.
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Did you end up getting ones or sticking with OEM?
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https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS3GSRRSWAY-ELV2
https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS-3GSFRSWAY-ELV2

Anyone upgraded their sway bar end links? I seems like @FIGS offers a nice upgrade.
I see one review: "It indeed does speed up the front sway bar response. The difference is felt immediately when turning into a corner. Much more responsive and more balanced."

Anyone can chime in?
I already modified my sway bars and thinking this might be another great tweek to my setup. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...y-bar-mod.html

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Originally Posted by Rossi
https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS3GSRRSWAY-ELV2
https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS-3GSFRSWAY-ELV2

Anyone upgraded their sway bar end links? I seems like @FIGS offers a nice upgrade.
I see one review: "It indeed does speed up the front sway bar response. The difference is felt immediately when turning into a corner. Much more responsive and more balanced."

Anyone can chime in?
I already modified my sway bars and thinking this might be another great tweek to my setup. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...y-bar-mod.html
I just had mine installed and really like them. The quality is very nice and they seem more stout and less prone to failure than the OEM units.
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Old 09-08-21 | 11:39 AM
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I ordered the front figs endlinks. I highly recommend them if you are lowered. The turn in is noticeably tighter. If you or the installer can preload properly, do it. I had poppin from my front sway bars when entering my driveway. It solved my problem immediately. For the price, why not order them.
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Yes, I am lowered mildly on KW V3s, I would like to bring the sway bars back to 90 angle. There should be zero preload right? ..... when installed on the ground/ramp.


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Originally Posted by Rossi
Yes, I am lowered mildly on KW V3s, I would like to bring the sway bars back to 90 angle. There should be zero preload right? ..... when installed on the ground/ramp.


No preload if links are adjusted to same length and as long as the bar isn't deformed/twisted. Adjustable links can be used to preload the bar on either end if you want to stiffen/soften one end, not sure for what kind of application though.
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Installed Figs endlinks 4 yrs ago. Noticeable differences especially since my car is lowered. Great build quality as well.

Figs Engineering endlinks and adjustable toe with skikky sway bar in rear.






This was my setup from 4yr ago

Current suspension setup
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Originally Posted by Rossi
https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS3GSRRSWAY-ELV2
https://shopfigs.com/v3/2IS-3GSFRSWAY-ELV2

Anyone upgraded their sway bar end links? I seems like @FIGS offers a nice upgrade.
I see one review: "It indeed does speed up the front sway bar response. The difference is felt immediately when turning into a corner. Much more responsive and more balanced."

Anyone can chime in?
I already modified my sway bars and thinking this might be another great tweek to my setup. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...y-bar-mod.html
@Rossi I think you will be happy with the Figs end links. They are thoughtfully designed and of high quality. I installed them with my coilovers, so unfortunately I cannot quantify a clear before/after impression due to the end links alone. I tried to zero out the preload myself, but the alignment shop seemed to do a much better job on the alignment rack while corner balancing, and turn-in was smoother afterwards.

Note on installation, do not use an Allen key on the hex head to react against while torquing down the Nylock nut on the stud that attaches to the bar. That hex head is not designed for that torque, it is just a safeguard for the press-fit stud. There are machined flats on the nut side of the ball joint that should be used instead. I missed the subtle machined flats, and since my Mazda's RSB has a large hex head that is used for torquing, I thought this hex head could be used for that purpose as well. Alarm bells were going off, but I was rushing a bit and ended up shearing off one of the hex heads.

The front end link stud flats are a similar style, but wider and more evident.


Red arrow points to subtle flat on rear end links.
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Originally Posted by JT2MA71
No preload if links are adjusted to same length and as long as the bar isn't deformed/twisted. Adjustable links can be used to preload the bar on either end if you want to stiffen/soften one end, not sure for what kind of application though.
Great clarification. I keep getting some rubbing on hard left turns only, so annoying. That could be a good application if the links themselves with zero proload don't do the trick. Thank you
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Thank you all for chiming in!

Order placed, I will report with a review after the instal.

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All right, I installed the rear set, Am I trying to set the sway bar to sit flat (parallel to the ground) or create 90 degree angle between the sway bar and the end links?
(If I do 90 degrees, sway bar end points upwards somewhat)

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