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Old 02-19-19, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tas02
Originally posted by ljdsong:

"That dyno graph above is done with e30 mix but like what I said is not accurate coz the engine air filter is not cleaned since I install the ss kit plus the blower of the dyno shop is not enough."

That your ringlands are still intact after this sort of abuse speaks volumes for the durability of the tune.
Agreed! Wonder why the few that have cracked ringlands what went wrong? Detonation? Abuse? Fuel issue? Etc....
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Speaking from experience, it only takes 2 degrees of advance beyond optimum to crack ring lands.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Speaking from experience, it only takes 2 degrees of advance beyond optimum to crack ring lands.
Your ISF is supercharged? I知 actually superised you can run 91 in it while supercharged. Rafi said he didn稚 suggest it for me and recommended an octane booster.
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No, my IS F is not supercharged. I learned this lesson in 1988 with my Yamaha FJ1100 on a top speed run where I pushed full advance up by 2 degrees and crushed the ring lands in cylinder #2. Cost me 8 mph in top speed too.

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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Speaking from experience, it only takes 2 degrees of advance beyond optimum to crack ring lands.
Or driving a completely stock Subaru .
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Originally Posted by Jwconeil


Or driving a completely stock Subaru .
Haha! dammit, one more thing for me to worry about. Here I was, only worried about the head gasket on my Impreza.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
No, my IS F is not supercharged. I learned this lesson in 1988 with my Yamaha FJ1100 on a top speed run where I pushed full advance up by 2 degrees and crushed the ring lands in cylinder #2. Cost me 8 mph in top speed too.
Sounds like you were doing the Isle of Man TT back in the day.
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Do they use an off the shelf map for these supercharger tunes or is it custom dyno tuned?

From reading Corky Bell's book about supercharging, you might lose up to 10% of the NA engine expected service life when you boost, but to me that's minor.

If it was me, I would feel better with a custom dyno tune.

GL.
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Originally Posted by 2URGSE
Do they use an off the shelf map for these supercharger tunes or is it custom dyno tuned?

From reading Corky Bell's book about supercharging, you might lose up to 10% of the NA engine expected service life when you boost, but to me that's minor.

If it was me, I would feel better with a custom dyno tune.

GL.
I think how you drive the car along with maintenance has more to do with shortening or extending the life of the engine then simply adding a supercharger. As far as the tune I知 not to sure if it痴 just a map or more.
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Sounds like you were doing the Isle of Man TT back in the day.
Sort of. I was stationed on Crete, so yes it was an island for sure. There was a nice stretch of road where I could hit 156 mph every day for the entire summer of 1988. Good times.
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I think how you drive the car along with maintenance has more to do with shortening or extending the life of the engine then simply adding a supercharger. As far as the tune I’m not to sure if it’s just a map or more.
Service life will depend on how much time you spend at high rpm (which aligns with high boost). Rings wear faster with higher cylinder pressures, there's no way to escape that. The same principle is in effect without boost - more time at high rpm (power) = shorter ring life.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Service life will depend on how much time you spend at high rpm (which aligns with high boost). Rings wear faster with higher cylinder pressures, there's no way to escape that. The same principle is in effect without boost - more time at high rpm (power) = shorter ring life.
Mine should last a long while with a supercharger then. My friends make fun of me for driving slow on the street. I only open it up at the track, with some rare exceptions.
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Originally Posted by lobuxracer
Service life will depend on how much time you spend at high rpm (which aligns with high boost). Rings wear faster with higher cylinder pressures, there's no way to escape that. The same principle is in effect without boost - more time at high rpm (power) = shorter ring life.
Along with proper maintenance. If I spend time at high RPM and do frequent oil changes and filters, trans fluid etc VS just driving the car and doing oil changes every 20k miles and putting in any regular oil and not doing any other maintenance I壇 take the car that takes some abuse and is properly maintained over one that痴 just driven and hardly gets anything done.
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I make a conscious effort to avoid operating my f @ high rpms when the oil temp is below 3 bars, or not under load (i.e. no free revving to hear how she sounds).
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Originally Posted by tas02
I make a conscious effort to avoid operating my f @ high rpms when the oil temp is below 3 bars, or not under load (i.e. no free revving to hear how she sounds).
I definitely agree with the free revving the car in neutral/park. I always let me car warm up to temp before I even start moving so around 5 minutes. During that time I mostly settle in and try to find what station or music I want to listen to. I知 never in a rush to just jump in and leave when the car is cold.


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