It's been a good 10 years
06-26-20, 12:04 PM
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I think when Tesla has their battery investor day (it's been delayed I think twice due to Covid) and they announce their achievement of the chemistry in their 1 million mile battery that will leave the door open to higher density batteries with the acquisition of Maxwells technology of dry electrode technology:
"The Maxwell dry battery electrode technology could increase battery energy density by 50% and eventually could nearly triple energy density from current levels. The technology can also lower the cost of batteries by 10 to 20% and double the life of batteries.
Currently, the Tesla Model 3 battery pack has an energy density of 272 Watt-hours per liter and at the battery cell level this is 207 watt-hours per kilogram. The dry battery electrode can increase energy density to over 300 watt-hours per kilogram and then to over 500 watt-hours per kilogram."
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/0...y-density.html
This should help with energy density per Watt-hour and allow the use of sustained higher energy levels that can be drawn upon in a track situation
"The Maxwell dry battery electrode technology could increase battery energy density by 50% and eventually could nearly triple energy density from current levels. The technology can also lower the cost of batteries by 10 to 20% and double the life of batteries.
Currently, the Tesla Model 3 battery pack has an energy density of 272 Watt-hours per liter and at the battery cell level this is 207 watt-hours per kilogram. The dry battery electrode can increase energy density to over 300 watt-hours per kilogram and then to over 500 watt-hours per kilogram."
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/0...y-density.html
This should help with energy density per Watt-hour and allow the use of sustained higher energy levels that can be drawn upon in a track situation
06-26-20, 01:23 PM
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I hear ya, the only way I was able to keep the ISF and get the Tesla is that the ISF is paid off and the insurance is really cheap on it so it doesn't really cost us anything to keep the car at this point in time.
But on the Tesla front it's an amazing car for city/daily driving and really can't be beat as far as a mode of transportation for ease of use and fun for stoplight obliterating of traffic
But on the Tesla front it's an amazing car for city/daily driving and really can't be beat as far as a mode of transportation for ease of use and fun for stoplight obliterating of traffic
06-26-20, 01:35 PM
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06-26-20, 02:07 PM
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Samsung is killing those numbers with R&D projects. If they actually develop these cells into an automotive capable device, I'd lose any resistance to having an electric as a primary car.
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06-26-20, 02:51 PM
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My insurance is like 960 on a 2013 a year and I’m 34.
Im hesitant on range. The cyber truck and the new Tesla coupe are the only acceptable ranges to me, at 500 and 600 miles. 200 - 300 would work for local drivers, but there are still a lot of places without chargers, and sometimes people just don’t want to sit somewhere for 30 minutes, not to mention the chargers may be in use.
Im hesitant on range. The cyber truck and the new Tesla coupe are the only acceptable ranges to me, at 500 and 600 miles. 200 - 300 would work for local drivers, but there are still a lot of places without chargers, and sometimes people just don’t want to sit somewhere for 30 minutes, not to mention the chargers may be in use.
06-26-20, 02:56 PM
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My insurance is like 960 on a 2013 a year and I’m 34.
Im hesitant on range. The cyber truck and the new Tesla coupe are the only acceptable ranges to me, at 500 and 600 miles. 200 - 300 would work for local drivers, but there are still a lot of places without chargers, and sometimes people just don’t want to sit somewhere for 30 minutes, not to mention the chargers may be in use.
Im hesitant on range. The cyber truck and the new Tesla coupe are the only acceptable ranges to me, at 500 and 600 miles. 200 - 300 would work for local drivers, but there are still a lot of places without chargers, and sometimes people just don’t want to sit somewhere for 30 minutes, not to mention the chargers may be in use.
06-26-20, 03:07 PM
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Range and charge time. I make a couple of long trips every year, and I frequently go from Atlanta to Charlotte (well, before all this silliness we have going on now) in the car because it's easier than flying by a long shot. If I could make the trip on a charge up with room to spare and charge while there to return, it would be perfect. Current range is right at the limit and if anything went wrong, I'd be getting stuck finding a place to charge and waiting for it to happen. The technology Samsung is talking about charges super fast. It could be competitive with fueling up with gasoline. So, after that hurdle is crossed, I'd be totally game for electric performance in my street vehicle.
06-26-20, 10:12 PM
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The ISF is:
- $315.25 every 6 months with 100k per person/300k each accident deductible $500
All the discounts applied multi vehicle & home owners policy full coverage
The Tesla is:
- $492 every 6 months with the same coverage as the ISF
06-27-20, 11:47 AM
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Not even close for zip code 30097...WAYYYY more money here.
06-27-20, 01:59 PM
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06-27-20, 03:06 PM
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Yea rates vary so much depending on how the insurance company rates your zip code. I can imagine that Cali zip codes are more to insure any car out there unfortuately.
06-28-20, 09:47 AM
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Congrats Great run of ownership in deed..!!
If Tesla would spend just a few more bucks in the Quality Control department instead of firing off rockets, they may have a better end product...
Just my .02 cents..
If Tesla would spend just a few more bucks in the Quality Control department instead of firing off rockets, they may have a better end product...
Just my .02 cents..
06-28-20, 12:01 PM
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You're not lying about that. Multiple issues with my P3D when I took delivery on Wednesday. Had them correct most of it before I left but I have to go back for a couple of other things(panel gaps, metal piece in my headlight housing). Mine is not as bad as others that have refused delivery. 60K+ car, I have no idea how someone doesn't do a walk around at least before the customer shows up to fix dinner of this stuff.
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