4.0 twin turbo V8....
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02-06-21, 09:43 PM
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All articles mention fit - It's been done:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...-is-500-a.html
Lou
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-...-is-500-a.html
Lou
Heck, a shop down here in SoCal shoved one into an RX350 as well..!!
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02-07-21, 07:29 AM
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Its crazy how car makers are not following market trends but forced into dumping the ICE due to govt regulations. The very same regulations that are preventing the building of electrical generating plants and dams and slowing upgrades to the grid.
California is all ready on rolling blackouts and converting all cars to electric? Now there’s some deep forethought
I see a disaster coming and will be keeping my ICE’s as long as physically possible
lexus sells so few F models I can hardly see them bringing any of them back.
California is all ready on rolling blackouts and converting all cars to electric? Now there’s some deep forethought
I see a disaster coming and will be keeping my ICE’s as long as physically possible
lexus sells so few F models I can hardly see them bringing any of them back.
If you look at it logically, they make sense for a large portion of the population. I drive 20 minutes one way a day. If I owned an EV, I’d plug my car in probably once or twice a week overnight. My electric bill would go up, but overall I’d save on energy bills, and have less maintenance. If solar energy for homes becomes more affordable, then it makes even more sense. Imagine not paying for fuel or electricity again. That’s a pretty big chunk of change, but a massive up front investment to get there. It just doesn’t pay off soon enough at current prices, if ever.
It gets hairier if you drive longer distances often. Current EVs and infrastructure make that difficult in some regions. There are places I simply couldn’t go if I didn’t own an ICE vehicle.
.....if it comes in arount 3,700 then that would be an upgrade in performance
02-07-21, 12:43 PM
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I agree with the logic of EVs in congested traffic short distance use.
what I also know is Solar will never be a primary source for the grid. There is NOT enough energy from the sun reaching to earth to make this anywhere near economical. Every solar self powered car goes how far? How fast? And weighs how much? The cost to concentrated that power is astronomical and not commercially viable no matter how hard man tries to make it happen same with wind. The ability to capture the power is not there nor is there enough power to capture.
what I also know is Solar will never be a primary source for the grid. There is NOT enough energy from the sun reaching to earth to make this anywhere near economical. Every solar self powered car goes how far? How fast? And weighs how much? The cost to concentrated that power is astronomical and not commercially viable no matter how hard man tries to make it happen same with wind. The ability to capture the power is not there nor is there enough power to capture.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2...h=3ff989b2d440
A typical Tesla solar roof installation can power the home and charge a Tesla to full every 4-5 days.
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02-07-21, 01:00 PM
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Yeah I respectfully disagree as well. Location is key. I live in the woods, in a state with low sunshine, so it isn’t as easy here. I have a friend in Hawaii that pretty much only installs solar panels. He said they pay themselves off in about 5 years there, and then the rest of the life of the panels, your power is free. I’m not sure what the cost of energy is there, but In Indiana it’s low. It doesn’t pay off to go solar here, but elsewhere it does, and long term his customers save money. I don’t know the specific details on costs.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
02-08-21, 07:49 AM
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Yeah I respectfully disagree as well. Location is key. I live in the woods, in a state with low sunshine, so it isn’t as easy here. I have a friend in Hawaii that pretty much only installs solar panels. He said they pay themselves off in about 5 years there, and then the rest of the life of the panels, your power is free. I’m not sure what the cost of energy is there, but In Indiana it’s low. It doesn’t pay off to go solar here, but elsewhere it does, and long term his customers save money. I don’t know the specific details on costs.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
Solar companies will tell you it makes sense about everywhere, but their numbers are based strongly on aggressive electric price increases. If you're considering the investment, take a good look at their numbers and predictions.
02-08-21, 01:03 PM
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Any photos/videos of that RX350 with the 2UR?!?! Not that I expect Lexus to even consider it, but an RX-F would be interesting to see.
02-08-21, 01:48 PM
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02-08-21, 04:57 PM
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what I also know is Solar will never be a primary source for the grid. There is NOT enough energy from the sun reaching to earth to make this anywhere near economical. Every solar self powered car goes how far? How fast? And weighs how much? The cost to concentrated that power is astronomical and not commercially viable no matter how hard man tries to make it happen same with wind. The ability to capture the power is not there nor is there enough power to capture...
Yeah I respectfully disagree as well. Location is key. I live in the woods, in a state with low sunshine, so it isn’t as easy here. I have a friend in Hawaii that pretty much only installs solar panels. He said they pay themselves off in about 5 years there, and then the rest of the life of the panels, your power is free. I’m not sure what the cost of energy is there, but In Indiana it’s low. It doesn’t pay off to go solar here, but elsewhere it does, and long term his customers save money. I don’t know the specific details on costs.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
If we all went solar, we would be less dependent on the power grid, not more.
The costs of that tech needs to come down before it can be mainstream, but it’s a viable, long term option.
This. I'm in the southern part of Indiana and similar. It economically and total electric output is borderline to not logical.
Solar companies will tell you it makes sense about everywhere, but their numbers are based strongly on aggressive electric price increases. If you're considering the investment, take a good look at their numbers and predictions.
Solar companies will tell you it makes sense about everywhere, but their numbers are based strongly on aggressive electric price increases. If you're considering the investment, take a good look at their numbers and predictions.
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02-08-21, 05:26 PM
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I'd be curious as to when yall run the numbers last.... I got quoted a 110.96kw system and got near 1.5 to 1.62 cents / watt, price keeps dropping as time goes on, payoff is about 8 years (after factoring in federal tax credits and bonus depreciation) but I have a commercially negotiated electricity price which makes the payoff tough, my electricity from the grid is just so cheap, once that payoff gets below 5 years though, it's a no brainer
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02-08-21, 07:46 PM
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Toyota/Lexus is kind of slow to release "cutting edge" engine tech, and with the industry all heading towards EVs, I don't think the Toyota 4L V8TT will ever be released.
I remember reading about the same 4L V8TT coming into the GSF back in 2017, 4 years later, still "in the works" and the GS is now discontinued in the US.
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/lexus-is-going-all-german-with-a-40-litre-592bhp-twin-turbo-v8/
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2017/08/08/more-rumors-on-the-lexus-twin-turbo-4-0l-v8-engine/
Don't be holding your breaths for this engine, I'm not.....
I remember reading about the same 4L V8TT coming into the GSF back in 2017, 4 years later, still "in the works" and the GS is now discontinued in the US.
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/lexus-is-going-all-german-with-a-40-litre-592bhp-twin-turbo-v8/
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2017/08/08/more-rumors-on-the-lexus-twin-turbo-4-0l-v8-engine/
Don't be holding your breaths for this engine, I'm not.....