The V8 is back: IS 500 F SPORT Performance
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So are they watering down the F-Sport name, or trying to class it up? Why not just call it the IS F again?
Jeff
So are they watering down the F-Sport name, or trying to class it up? Why not just call it the IS F again?
Jeff
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02-24-21, 09:37 AM
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So here's a little backstory I never really shared here. I was part of the early discussion on IS F before it debuted in Detroit back in 2007, I was involved in the study team meeting with Chief Engineer Yaguchi and a select group of enthusiasts I invited, @Joe Z was one of them. A few years back, I was involved in the study team discussions for what we now know as the IS 500 F SPORT Performance. The first concern of mine was not being labeled an IS F. Also the confusion of what the F and F SPORT branding.
The IS 500 F SPORT Performance compared to the previous IS F, the core elements are there. Compact RWD sedan with a V8, performance wheels/tires/brakes, great handling. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance in my opinion is the IS F successor. The reason I came with that conclusion after numerous meetings with the product planning and marketing teams over the years, this is an effort to continue a true V8 compact sport sedan without braking the bank. If you look at it, most people that have owned IS F have changed out the brake pads and rotors (because they think the OEM Lexus/Brembo replacement parts are too expensive), changed the wheels, the suspension, for some the driver's seat for something more supportive and aggressive. I don't look at this new car as a bad thing. I actually think it's great because it is a clean slate for someone ready to customize it their way, and not have expensive branded parts that will be deemed useless once they change it out.
What the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance doesn't have compared to IS F:
What the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance has that the previous IS F doesn't:
The IS 500 F SPORT Performance still carries the original Lexus Musts for IS F:
The IS 500 F SPORT Performance compared to the previous IS F, the core elements are there. Compact RWD sedan with a V8, performance wheels/tires/brakes, great handling. The IS 500 F SPORT Performance in my opinion is the IS F successor. The reason I came with that conclusion after numerous meetings with the product planning and marketing teams over the years, this is an effort to continue a true V8 compact sport sedan without braking the bank. If you look at it, most people that have owned IS F have changed out the brake pads and rotors (because they think the OEM Lexus/Brembo replacement parts are too expensive), changed the wheels, the suspension, for some the driver's seat for something more supportive and aggressive. I don't look at this new car as a bad thing. I actually think it's great because it is a clean slate for someone ready to customize it their way, and not have expensive branded parts that will be deemed useless once they change it out.
What the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance doesn't have compared to IS F:
- No Brembo Brakes
- No BBS Wheels
- No F side skirt/vents
- No F badging
- No F front seats (heated only)
What the 2022 IS 500 F SPORT Performance has that the previous IS F doesn't:
- 5-mode Drive Mode Select (Normal, SPORT and SNOW ECT modes for IS F)
- Adaptive Variable Suspension (One way, non adjustable Tokico shocks for IS F)
- Lexus Safety System + 2.5 (Radar Cruise was the only safety option for the IS F)
The IS 500 F SPORT Performance still carries the original Lexus Musts for IS F:
- Must Be Balanced
- Must Be Authentic
- Must Haul ***
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Looking through the press release, I do see why it may not justify being called an IS F. No Brembo brakes. no BBS wheels, no TVD.
Still, it's nice to see the V8 making it's way back into the IS.
Jeff
Still, it's nice to see the V8 making it's way back into the IS.
Jeff
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Maybe this means the "F" will only be used for the more high end models such as the LC-F and LS-F? Who knows. I am excited they are putting the V-8 back in the IS.
Steve
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From the IS500 it does seem like the F-Sport Performance models are really giving people what they want as far as actual performance improvements on F-Sport models, while leaving F models with even more performance I suppose. We'll have to see what future F models hold I suppose. Hopefully it means pushing F models higher as well.
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OK - So let's see
Back in 2008 Lexus introduced the first "F" car - An IS series vehicle with a 5 liter engine and called it the ISF. That car was produced until 2014. In 2015 Lexus announced the second "F" car the RCF next came the GSF. Both contained the same updated and now more powerful engine introduced in the original ISF. They then used basically the same engine in the LC500 introduced in 2018 - No "F" or F-Sport designation. So now we have an IS500, an F-Sport, not a real "F" car, that shares it's engine with the RCF and the LC500. Not to mention the LS500, same designation, but, wait a minute it has a 3.5 liter blown V6
The IS300 has a 2 liter blown straight 4, and the IS300 AWD has a 3.5 liter NA V6
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Looking through the press release, I do see why it may not justify being called an IS F. No Brembo brakes. no BBS wheels, no TVD.
Still, it's nice to see the V8 making it's way back into the IS.
Jeff
Still, it's nice to see the V8 making it's way back into the IS.
Jeff
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