Audio System Volume Settings - Update Possible?
#1
Audio System Volume Settings - Update Possible?
Thought there was a thread on this already, but can’t seem to find same.
When changing from audio source to source (i.e.: AM/FM to SAT to CD to USB, etc.), our vehicles ‘remember’ the volume setting at each source, such that if you set AM/FM volume to 40, change to SAT, adjust the volume to 30 and go back to AM/FM, AM/FM will be at 40.
This is unlike every vehicle I have ever had and not a good design because if you are listening to the radio loudly, change the source, adjust the volume as desired (say you’re not listening to talk radio or other audio at a low volume), time goes by (whether on the same drive or after having exited the car and gotten back into it) and go back to the source you were listening to loudly, the speakers will blare at the high volume, presenting a shock to your ears, instead of having a smooth transition from source to source.
As you may see from my other recent posts, I’ve contacted Lexus and I’m disappointed in their response; they’ve confirmed this is the way our vehicles are designed, but that it will take the complaints of others to make a change. When I said I am raising this as a concern to benefit all, rep stated he understood my complaint, he too has a 3IS, but he believes same hasn't bothered him as he only uses Pandora!? What kind of nonsense response is that!? This is something that can be easily fixed by a software update, and our vehicles should at least give us the option to have a fixed audio volume across all sources or individual audio volumes at each.
So, EVERYONE, PLEASE notify Lexus of concerns over not having a fixed audio volume across all sources. You can either call them at: 800-25-LEXUS (53987) or e-mail them here: http://lexus2.custhelp.com/app/ask. Thank you.
When changing from audio source to source (i.e.: AM/FM to SAT to CD to USB, etc.), our vehicles ‘remember’ the volume setting at each source, such that if you set AM/FM volume to 40, change to SAT, adjust the volume to 30 and go back to AM/FM, AM/FM will be at 40.
This is unlike every vehicle I have ever had and not a good design because if you are listening to the radio loudly, change the source, adjust the volume as desired (say you’re not listening to talk radio or other audio at a low volume), time goes by (whether on the same drive or after having exited the car and gotten back into it) and go back to the source you were listening to loudly, the speakers will blare at the high volume, presenting a shock to your ears, instead of having a smooth transition from source to source.
As you may see from my other recent posts, I’ve contacted Lexus and I’m disappointed in their response; they’ve confirmed this is the way our vehicles are designed, but that it will take the complaints of others to make a change. When I said I am raising this as a concern to benefit all, rep stated he understood my complaint, he too has a 3IS, but he believes same hasn't bothered him as he only uses Pandora!? What kind of nonsense response is that!? This is something that can be easily fixed by a software update, and our vehicles should at least give us the option to have a fixed audio volume across all sources or individual audio volumes at each.
So, EVERYONE, PLEASE notify Lexus of concerns over not having a fixed audio volume across all sources. You can either call them at: 800-25-LEXUS (53987) or e-mail them here: http://lexus2.custhelp.com/app/ask. Thank you.
Last edited by dbs600; 11-22-13 at 08:09 AM.
#2
It is a poor design decision that could be easily fixed via software. I think the best alternative is what is often offered in home theater receivers, where you can set a +/- dB volume offset that's saved for each of your sources, while the main volume control is still active across all sources. That way, you could self-adjust the volume levels for each source (quieter AM/FM would get a big + dB boost, USB/BT would be kept standard, etc.).
Luckily for me, the volume switching hasn't really bugged me thus far, since I listen almost exclusively via BT, but I can definitely see where you're coming from.
Luckily for me, the volume switching hasn't really bugged me thus far, since I listen almost exclusively via BT, but I can definitely see where you're coming from.
#3
It is a poor design decision that could be easily fixed via software. I think the best alternative is what is often offered in home theater receivers, where you can set a +/- dB volume offset that's saved for each of your sources, while the main volume control is still active across all sources. That way, you could self-adjust the volume levels for each source (quieter AM/FM would get a big + dB boost, USB/BT would be kept standard, etc.).
Luckily for me, the volume switching hasn't really bugged me thus far, since I listen almost exclusively via BT, but I can definitely see where you're coming from.
Luckily for me, the volume switching hasn't really bugged me thus far, since I listen almost exclusively via BT, but I can definitely see where you're coming from.
Yes, very simply, there should be a setting that toggles between fixed or locked volume across all sources or individual volume at each source (similar to what the 'dual' button does for the HVAC system).
If you understand where I am coming from, I would greatly appreciate your sending Lexus a quick e-mail via the link provided regarding same.
Thanks.
#5
I don't agree with this. Separate volume for each source is perfect. Some people might have problem when you have a radio at 40 volume and then switch to another source like CD which has different loudness and it will be too loud. If you have separate volume setting for each source this will not happen.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
#6
I don't agree with this. Separate volume for each source is perfect. Some people might have problem when you have a radio at 40 volume and then switch to another source like CD which has different loudness and it will be too loud. If you have separate volume setting for each source this will not happen.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
Each person uses technology or setting differently though.
#7
I don't agree with this. Separate volume for each source is perfect. Some people might have problem when you have a radio at 40 volume and then switch to another source like CD which has different loudness and it will be too loud. If you have separate volume setting for each source this will not happen.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
I assume that you were listening to AM/FM at volume 40 why will it bother you when switch it back from other sources? Obviously you were comfortable at this volume.
The only problem is if you turn the volume down, switch sources, and have the volume jump back up.
A solution to satisfy both sides would be an "override" type feature where there is one set volume across all sources.
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#8
Yes, remembering the audio setting of each source is my preference as well and a good design choice in my opinion. It's like most newer TV's, each input remembers the audio level it was on. It works better this way because the source audio might be louder or softer for each input.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 12-11-13 at 10:41 AM.
#9
The simplest solution would be to spend 1 minute setting all your sources to the same volume. The fact that all your sources are at different settings means that you have a preference for each source, otherwise they'd all be the same and you wouldn't have any issues at all. It'd be more work to have it all the same then having to change it to the volume you desire.
#10
It would be nice to have a gain compensation setting for each input that the user could customize, like with a home theater receiver. That way, volume could be equalized across sources, and you would never get unexpected jumps or dips in volume when changing sources.
#12
This is exceptionally beneficial. When you have a source with low volume output you can raise the volume on that source and whenever you swith back to a source that has a high output it won't be blasting your ears. Now if you raise the volume on a source because you wanted to, changed source without lowering the volume and after a while you switch back and now it is blasting, then that's your fault.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 12-11-13 at 10:42 AM.
#13
Yes, remembering the audio setting of each source is my preference as well and a good design choice in my opinion. It's like most newer TV's, each input remembers the audio level it was on. It works better this way because the source audio might be louder or softer for each input.
The simplest solution would be to spend 1 minute setting all your sources to the same volume. The fact that all your sources are at different settings means that you have a preference for each source, otherwise they'd all be the same and you wouldn't have any issues at all. It'd be more work to have it all the same then having to change it to the volume you desire.
No, I do not; thanks though.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 12-11-13 at 10:42 AM.
#14
No no don't get me wrong, you're not muddying my experience, I'm having a blast! I'm saying you are killing your own experience by worrying so much and seeing so much negative stuff about the car... they are not that big of a deal and sometimes I know habits are hard to break (I know, trust me) but sometimes because we are so used to something a certain way, we get blinded and don't realize that the new way is so much better than how we are used to...
I think it's great each input remembers its own volume setting. If it worked the opposite way I would not like it but I would understand why they did it and wouldn't say it was improperly designed. Maybe you should do a survey to see who thinks it's an issue.
Same with the rear headrest height adjustment. Maybe it was designed that way to not block the visibility of the driver? Maybe there's a regulation on how high they can go?
Sometimes when I read your posts it seems like you don't see other sides or reasons why things are the way they are and you believe your way is the only way and then you come to a judgement that something is wrong. It's really quite entertaining.
#15
this is done on purpose because difference source's often need different volume, for instance your favourite FM station might need higher volume than you favorite CD or MP3 from the stick.
people usually complain to have this function included, not vice versa...
people usually complain to have this function included, not vice versa...