IIRC PRIOR renditions of the 8xx series BMW are the unreliable and Uber expensive to repair benchmarks for BMW. The Worst of the Worst.
Bruce in Fl

 

Thats why I will not own a BMW again. They are great until they aren't. When I walk into a dealership and the shop has brochures for financing repairs..that's your first clue. I just see those cars...as they are built now as in warranty purchases only.. they aren't built to be equitably kept "post warranty" unless you don't mind spending tens of thousands of dollars to keep a mechnical thing working that really was never designed to last long term to begin with. I consider them along with some Mercedes more as art that is built to self destruct after the warranty period.

 

I listen to a talk radio guy in Gainesville, Fl. He has some Diesel BMW (Wait a minute. Diesel+BMW?? Oh hell no!) Vert.
The DEF filter itself is over $2000. The few aftermarket options don't work very well.
The filter is basically unobtanium.
There is a group that jury rigs the sensors to allow the cars with bad filters to still operate.
I know for a Fact that BMW has had issues with the rear ends of their bikes with shaft drive. For at least the last 30 years. They still absolutely refuse to admit there's been any issue with the bike itself.
MANY Iron Butt Rally riders have had their $10,000+ Iron Butt Rally effort crushed by the failed rear end on what Is Supposed To Be the top high mile bikes on the planet.
IMO, to own a BMW, either time and money wasted on unreliability Isn't important to you or you are just ignorant. Or both.
Bruce in FL

 

what is that weird stack of white headlights/taillights on the far right there? its making my head hurt. the thing makes no sense. It looks like headlights, but its got red colored lights on top of the bottom stack. WHAT IS THIS MADDNESS!!?!?

 

And exhaust THRU the body??
Bruce in Fl

 

You can give input without being so condescending, you know.

No car is without problems. I’ve had my LC in for warranty work at least five times for things like defective brake pads and numerous HVAC component failures (resulting in four separate several day repairs with me in a loaner).

Newer BMWs have made massive improvements in reliability. Their B58 engine is particularly impressive, and was co-developed with Toyota advice as it’s shared for use in the Supra. If you keep up with maintenance they’re fine. The issue with so many BMWs is people lease them and ditch them, so they put little effort into recommended break-in procedures, routine and preventive maintenance, and proper use of the car like not beating the snot out of it before it’s warmed up.

 

The car on top is a Pontiac G6 hardtop convertible I’m fixing up for my mother-in-law. The bottom car is a 2023 Hyundai Kona N.

 

it must be that camera lens distortion as it looks like 2 cars melded into one. hahah thanks for clearing it up.

 

A manual M4 is a nice choice for something a little sportier...a beautiful all black one is in the parking area where I work. But I may have mentioned that Oahu is just not the right place to enjoy a true sports car...learned that after owning a manual C2 for a while. A GT cruiser will fit my wants/needs a little better as I have about a 30 minute commute to work now that is mostly highway with a few opportunities to hear that great exhaust. But when stuck in bad traffic...the luxury aspect will be nice too.

 

the kona n does have some funky light/trim action going on...

 

This isn't an 8 series, but the F90 M5 has the same engine as the M8 (4.4 L S63 twin-turbo V8). I did a review of the issues my bro and I have dealt with so far with our 2018 F90 M5. The M5 is a rocket ship, and full of tech - but it comes with its own fair share of gremlins...

 

Agree on all points.

My M850 and previous BMW's going back to the early 2000's have been quite solid. My wife's GS430 F Sport had major suspension issues with a constant loud metallic clunking when driving over pavers, cobblestone roads etc. and after several unsuccessful repair attempts and/or it being stated as "normal" Lexus bought it back.

 

The deep-seated turbos in the vee are definitely not the best design imo, but that's what the Germans did probably due to emissions/helping things heat up quicker.

There's not much talk of any serious issues on the bimmerpost 8 series forum (M850 or M8), actually very little and it's a group of very discerning individuals.

I am very much looking forward to the 24 LC but will miss the neck snapping power of the M850 which as I've mentioned previously, dyno's bone stock at ~600hp and are rated at 523, plus the massive torque is sublime. .