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Yup, saw this, thx. I have only good things to say about PS4S, hope same for PS S5. I guess MY'24 guys are not unhappy with them else probably would've posted about it.🤙🏾
You guys would be much better off with the Pilot A/S4s IMO. You don't really need summer tires if not tracking the car, which I assume very few (if at all) do, since it's not a track car by any means with its tremendous weight. Plus summer tires only stick better than those A/S4s with proper heat, which most drivers are unable to generate on the street. Plus you can use the A/S4s year round, and are WAY safer in cooler weather, not to mention rain and inclement weather. And they last probably twice as long, and are cheaper to boot. What's not to like? And they're only a category below summer (ultra high-performance all-season), so it's not like a Toyota Corolla tire. Hope this helps.
You guys would be much better off with the Pilot A/S4s IMO. You don't really need summer tires if not tracking the car, which I assume very few (if at all) do, since it's not a track car by any means with its tremendous weight. Plus summer tires only stick better than those A/S4s with proper heat, which most drivers are unable to generate on the street. Plus you can use the A/S4s year round, and are WAY safer in cooler weather, not to mention rain and inclement weather. And they last probably twice as long, and are cheaper to boot. What's not to like? And they're only a category below summer (ultra high-performance all-season), so it's not like a Toyota Corolla tire. Hope this helps.
Great perspective, you made way too much sense. Hope i remember this come replacement time🤙🏾
You guys would be much better off with the Pilot A/S4s IMO. You don't really need summer tires if not tracking the car, which I assume very few (if at all) do, since it's not a track car by any means with its tremendous weight. Plus summer tires only stick better than those A/S4s with proper heat, which most drivers are unable to generate on the street. Plus you can use the A/S4s year round, and are WAY safer in cooler weather, not to mention rain and inclement weather. And they last probably twice as long, and are cheaper to boot. What's not to like? And they're only a category below summer (ultra high-performance all-season), so it's not like a Toyota Corolla tire. Hope this helps.
Actually the PS4SA and PSS5 are not meant for track use, they are a Max Performance Street Tire. Michelin has the Pilot Sport Cup 2 Connect for track use. I have PS4S on my LC and appreciate the added security and handling ability I get with them. Road holding is top notch, and yes I can feel the difference. I even have HiPo street performance tires on my truck Tires are the vehicles connection to the road and the better they handle the better I feel. As far as rain, the PS4S does just fine. For winter use in colder climates - Have a second set of wheels with dedicated winter tires. All season tires are meant for the Camry crowd. Just my opinion
Unless you're super serious about spirited driving AND don't mind the extra costs (lower longevity, extra wheels or trips to get tires swapped) I think Michelin all-seasons are a better choice if you live somewhere it gets below freezing. I switched from P-Zeros in my Cayman to Michelin all-seasons and the drop in fun on a twisty road was only maybe like 10%, & with the huge savings I'm gonna be all-seasons all the time from now on, even with spirited driving being my main priority
500 treadwear rating on the Pilot Sport all-seasons vs. 300 on PS4Ss - pretty major
All season tires are meant for the Camry crowd. Just my opinion
You're wrong... but unfortunately, that's the misconception many folks have. Do you know how many categories of all-season tires are? SEVEN, and that's excluding the winter ones. And I didn't say summer tires are track tires, but unless you have ample track experience, you don't need cup tires. In fact, you'd probably do better on all-season 4s than PS4Ss; they're that good. Summer tires need lots of heat to stick (and cup tires even more). Anyway, as I mentioned before, the ultra-high performance A/S category is right below summer, and they stick really well with less heat, so unless you were pushing your LC really hard, there's absolutely ZERO advantages of having summer tires. And they have the same rim protection. Do some research. Just trying to help, and make you safer too. In fact, you might even have enough with 'grand touring all-season' tires (they offer the same rim protection too), which is what many sports cars with AWD come with... if not pushing the LC hard. Anyway, summer tires are pretty dangerous at about 50F, and UHPAS tires are much safer in the rain, due to much better water evacuation. They could save you from hydroplanning on a downpour, and if temperatures drops at a mountain trip/run. I feel much safer pushing my sports cars and motorcycles on UHPAS and sport-touring tires, that summer/sport ones, because the latter don't get nearly hot enough for proper grip. And the former are more predictable, also giving you better feedback of what's happening. Hope this helps.
Please excuse my ignorance but are the Michelin
PSS5, PS4S and A/S4 that are being discussed run flats? I bought my car as a CPO and it came with a new set of Bridgestone Potenza RFT’s (see pic- I think they are OEM but not sure). Would I get a perceptible boost in handling performance if I switched them out for any of the Michelins being discussed? The big thing where I live is we get occasional unexpected monsoon-like afternoon thunderstorms so although I try to avoid driving my LC in the rain I occasionally get caught so I need decent wet grip. Also I’ve had to replace / patch at least 3 of my Jeep’s tires over the past couple of years due to metal debris, nails, etc, as it seems like there’s always construction going on around here so I like the idea of having run flats.
^^^^For MY2024 The LC now comes with MAX Performance non-RFT tires. Lexus now provides a tire repair kit in the trunk. The Michelin PS4S and PSS5 are both Max Performance tires with the PSS5 being a newer iteration, not yet available to the general public. And yes, I switched out my tires and wheels when I bought my LC. My wheels are wider than stock and my tires are upsized both front and rear. My new wheels and tires were a definite handling improvement
^^^^For MY2024 The LC now comes with MAX Performance non-RFT tires. Lexus now provides a tire repair kit in the trunk. The Michelin PS4S and PSS5 are both Max Performance tires with the PSS5 being a newer iteration, not yet available to the general public. And yes, I switched out my tires and wheels when I bought my LC. My wheels are wider than stock and my tires are upsized both front and rear. My new wheels and tires were a definite handling improvement
Thanks - that’s interesting that they did a switch to non-RFT for 2024. I was up at my local dealer today and they had three 2024’s for sale - one had the PSS5 and two had Dunlops
The car tracks on the highway (125 - 130 kmh or 75 - 80 mph) like it is guided by radar with absolutely zero pulling or tram-lining like I’ve experienced with Cup tires on a high performance car (with 335 tires so that contributes to tram-lining).
I drive my car as the GT that it is and these tires are really capable and comfortable, contributing to the sporty luxurious character of the car.
The Cup tires throw road debris in my wheel wells. Not the case with these PSS5’s, again they’re very smooth and quiet.
They’ve performed as I would expect in the limited rain that I’ve experienced; no slippage or insecurity.
I’m very pleased with the PSS5’s and I’d highly recommend them.
The car tracks on the highway (125 - 130 kmh or 75 - 80 mph) like it is guided by radar with absolutely zero pulling or tram-lining like I’ve experienced with Cup tires on a high performance car (with 335 tires so that contributes to tram-lining).
I drive my car as the GT that it is and these tires are really capable and comfortable, contributing to the sporty luxurious character of the car.
The Cup tires throw road debris in my wheel wells. Not the case with these PSS5’s, again they’re very smooth and quiet.
They’ve performed as I would expect in the limited rain that I’ve experienced; no slippage or insecurity.
I’m very pleased with the PSS5’s and I’d highly recommend them.
Sounds like the S5s are all i want in a tire, appreciate the feedback!
My LC ain’t ever gonna see a track, and as a recovering former motorcycle road racer, I don’t engage in spirited driving too often. Was just wondering: what tires are there that provide a smooth, quiet ride? My big Lexus wears Bridgestone Serenity tires, which I think are spectacular, and long-lasting. Anything out there that would work? My LC has 20” wheels. Thanks.
11-15-23 | 12:37 PM
; they're that good. Summer tires need lots of heat to stick (and cup tires even more). Anyway, as I mentioned before, the ultra-high performance A/S category is right below summer, and they stick really well with less heat, so unless you were pushing your LC really hard, there's absolutely ZERO advantages of having summer tires. And they have the same rim protection. Do some research. Just trying to help, and make you safer too. In fact, you might even have enough with 'grand touring all-season' tires (they offer the same rim protection too), which is what many sports cars with AWD come with... if not pushing the LC hard. Anyway, summer tires are pretty dangerous at about 50F, and UHPAS tires are much safer in the rain, due to much better water evacuation. They could save you from hydroplanning on a downpour, and if temperatures drops at a mountain trip/run. I feel much safer pushing my sports cars and motorcycles on UHPAS and sport-touring tires, that summer/sport ones, because the latter don't get nearly hot enough for proper grip. And the former are more predictable, also giving you better feedback of what's happening. Hope this helps.
