cwest13

Has any Lexus product seen that kind of price performance other than the LFA? The F cars hold value but still depreciated. And the LC doesn’t have an F version. Predecessors like the SC 400 and SC 430 have not done that well. Amazing car but the kind of limited depreciation or even appreciation are reserved for specific subsets of cars that aren’t the LC 500. But time will tell.

zissis

That what they said in the Honda S2000 forums back in 2000 when I bought mine. Look at those cars now though. I would not expect to get rich of of holding onto an LC but in the long run you probably will not loose money.

tennman117

I think this is an excellent analogy.
I just did a quick check and found that Honda sold around 66,000 units in the U.S.A. during their total 10 year production run and a total of 111,000 worldwide.
The latest production numbers I found for the LC is around 14,000 units since 2017 here in the U.S.

A 123 mile 2009 s2000 model sold for $205,000 after buyer fees on Bring a Trailer a couple of years ago.

Time will tell on ours.

Badhobz

That’s exactly it.

Look at the IS F or even the sc430.

A good condition post 2006 sc430 are still holding 25-30k Canadian which is ridiculous for a 18 year old car.

Similarly the ISF original is always around 30-40k Canadian for one in decent shape and that car is almost 20 years old as well.

both models do not elicit the same visual excitement as the LC and both did not review as well either. Most reviwers agree this is a future classic and even today I can’t seem to find a LC for lower than 80k Canadian (even 2018 ones)

I think it has a really good shot at being an appreciating car. Better than most of the stuff produced today

cwest13

you’ll lose money if you account for inflation, but considering most cars that’s a huge win.

Taking your S2K example, clean AP2s are basically selling at their MSRP of $32k, give or take. But adjusted for inflation, they’d need to sell for $50k to “not lose money”.

So yes, you can drive and enjoy an LC 500 for many years and have it depreciate relatively little, but I think y’all severely overestimate how many cars appreciate or truly don’t lose value.

Vitveet

Exactly. They produced WAY too many for the price to climb. I believe the prices, like the F cars, will sit still, but in no way, shape form or fashion go over MSRP like the LFA/Ford GT. It's a nice/special car, but way too easy to get your hands on. Not really writings on the wall for strong appreciation.

V.

Vitveet

Everything sold for big money from 2020 to 2022.... including Honda civics, which they make over 100,000 a year. Bad example you just gave, no disrespect! 123 mile 15 year old car is super rare in itself.
But the car, enjoy it, don't worry about "appreciation". You'll drive yourself crazy doing so and it'll dampen your ownership experience. MUCH better things to buy as "investments" other than a Lexus LC500.

V.

DoctorOcho1

Surprised we haven't seen any news on the 2025. Think we had already heard about the 2024's by this time last year.

Any guesses when we might here something?

tennman117

Just take a look at what any clean S2000 is bringing right now.
The number of them produced are almost 4 times the number of LC's out there.
I'm not worried in the least about mine appreciating in my lifetime or keeping the miles down on it.
Simply saying these cars are not going to suffer the normal deprecation in a few years compared to other similar models.

cwest13

If you look at the timing of other model year announcements it’s kind of all over the place. Sometimes as late as October.

jbuffett

LC production count (~12K through 2023) is more in line with Mk4 Supras (11,239 US) and gen1 NSX's (8949 US) than the S2000. Obviously it won't see LFA rates of appreciation (500 cars), but a lot of NSXs are now selling over $100K with 30-40K miles. My own '00 NSX sold new for $88K in 2000 and sold at auction 21 years later with ~40K miles for $154K. It was a rare factory color but an otherwise base (non-Zanardi, non-'02+) spec car.

I would never suggest a car as an investment, for most of us the LC will end up being a car that we got to drive for a while and didn't suffer as much depreciation as our other cars. A couple of the Inspiration Editions with unique color combinations will be resale winners, like the '18 and '21 structural blue cars. 2024 and later cars will likely get a bump due to the tech upgrades and their being a subset (<20%) of the production run. From a valuation perspective, the worst LC to own will likely be a pre-2020 coupe in (sorry guys) a "boring color".

Badhobz

I think this will help increase our values hahahah. Joe Rogan's got quite a following

finny76

Only the Inspiration series (limited) "may" likely go up in value. I dont see regular LC500s to appreciate at all.

Seems about right... There is a 2018 IS on BAT right now, and a 2021 IS that is listed at a dealer.

Interesting to see where the one on BAT lands...

NickL

Would be interesting to see how those structural blue hold up with USB and white/blue interior color combo available.

jbuffett

I would have mostly agreed with this...until Lexus launched the bespoke process. Now, you can build a copy of pretty much any year's Inspiration Edition via the bespoke process.

Example: the best selling LCs from a value perspective have always been the 2018 IE coupe and 2021 IE convertible in Structural Blue. Until 2024 and the new Ultrasonic Blue color, which could be combined with bespoke to do a blue roof and white interior. This has caused structural blue LC500 prices to drop significantly over time -- from $183K in May 2022 down to $103K for a 5K mile example in November 2023. A collector-grade (900 miles) one that same month didn't meet reserve at $110K, less than it sold for new.

Every other Inspiration Edition color isn't unique enough -- Flare Yellow, Nori Green, Obsidian (black), Iridium (silver) and now Polar Surge (white) -- to justify a premium for a car that has no performance upgrade. Special wheels, black trim? My 2024 bespoke has them.

If Lexus does come out with a "final / ultimate edition", it will be the one to own from a value / appreciation perspective. Especially if it has the factory transmission cooler. After that I think the 2024+ infotainment and technology upgrades will be a big draw, especially if Lexus only makes the car this way for 2 years. Then it's all about color combinations and color rarity. A red/black '24 convertible will be common, because you can get them every year. My '24 in ultrasonic blue? There's 9 of them currently available...vs 50 infrareds.

A rare color doesn't necessarily make the car valuable, for example Copper Crest. To me those look like a car that a top makeup salesperson drives.