NickL

If I search for new ‘24 coupe, I got
9 white
5 black
2 yellow
1 silver
1 beige(it’s actually matte white inspiration)
1 green

Great job on building the cars you didn’t have to Lexus.

np20412

This was my exact thought process as well. A Base 911 is pretty well equipped to be fair, but to really get it the way you'd want it easily pushes $160k by the time you add in things that the Lexus gives you standard plus some porsche specialty goodies

NickL

Also, why don’t you just do the bespoke build that’s more guaranteed than these allocation lottery.
The RWS in DHP does absolutely nothing in your daily driving.

cwest13

I am, unfortunately, picky about colors to a fault. Especially if I'm buying a new, six figure car, it better be exactly what I want. When I was shopping the 911 I searched for over a year to get green/tan.

I would consider nightfall mica or nori green but used, wouldn't pay the used premium. And then the downside would be losing the 360 camera and the touchscreen (wife has an ES 300h and the trackpad is not good).

As for DHP, I reached out to a few people I trust and with a lot of experience with the LC 500 and the universal answer was to hold out for DHP with particular praise for the rear steer (variable gear ratio steering is less important).

tecman

That's nice to hear with many on this forum not wanting the DHP.

NickL

2025 ES300H sits in Safety Connect 2.5 that includes 360degree camera. No trackpad.

If you seriously think you can benefit from the RWS on the DHP of the LC500 in your daily commute, you better off getting the 911.
You have a better chance of using the better handling performance in the 911 vs. the LC500 than a LC500 w/wo RWS.
But hey, you can keep waiting. 2025 LC500 is likely to come out. I bet you the first one that rolls out of production will be a white one.

NotADentist

Does the RWS ease parking in tight spots? My biggest gripe about my pickup is maneuvering in parking lots. The long wheel base is a killer.

NickL

In theory, RWS should have a tighter turning radius than non rws vehicle.
This member did say that it helps him a bit in his tight parking spot.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/lc-...-wheels-2.html

I think what’s more important though, for this situation, is the 360deg cam. Sure, the RWS will help a bit but the 360deg cam will significantly reduce the chance of you scraping the front bottom when pulling in and out of parking spots with curbs and concrete block stoppers.
As much as I like the dash of the ‘23 and prior, the lack of 360deg is really a killer for this car. The nose is so effing long and the rear wheel fenders are so effing wide. But that’s what made the LC500 so unique isn’t it. So glad they made it available on ‘24 +.

np20412

To me the guidelines when pulling forward and turning alone are 100% worth it. I tend to park in end spots where one side of the car is against the curb, and when you need to pull out of the spot and turn to the curb side, the guidelines make it idiot proof so you don't curb your rear wheel by turning too soon.

NickL

I haven’t seen any documentation about the turning radius of LC500 w/w/o the RWS.
When this tech came out in 2013 for GS350 F sport, it was said that it only become activated at certain(high) speed. If this is still true for LC500, it would not help with parking.
It’s hard to gauge what other people say. Their driving and your driving are not the same. And take my opinion and experience with a grain of salt. I test drove the LC500 no less than 4 times since 2018. All with DHP with RWS. When it’s time to buy one, I bought one without it. Why? I wanted a Bespoke and didn’t even think about the RWS.
I need to wait for my dealer to have a RWS and non RWS LC and test out the turning radius between the two vehicles. As of right now, finding any dealer that has an LC is a little challenging. They start to go pretty quick up here as well.

ragabnh

From Google search using AI

"Yes, the Lexus LC 500's Dynamic Rear Steering (DRS) feature can help reduce the turning radius when parking and at low speeds:

• Explanation
  DRS, along with Variable Gear-Ratio Steering (VGRS) and Electric Power Steering (EPS), work together to independently control all four wheels. At low speeds, the rear wheels turn in opposite directions, which can help the vehicle maneuver more easily and reduce the turning radius. This can make the car feel more nimble, similar to a smaller vehicle.
• Other benefits
  DRS can also help with stability and line trace performance, and can enhance the vehicle's response and rear grip when cornering. At higher speeds, DRS can also help with stability. "

flowrider

iTrader: (9)

19.4' (5.91M) vs 18.9' (5.75M)



Lou

cwest13

Turning Circle (curb to curb):
5.4 m / 17.7 ft
5.3 m / 17.4 ft (with Active Rear Steering)

You can see a little graphic by Lexus here at the 24:25 mark:



It doesn't matter as much for low speed turning like parking, but it is not speed activated. It does matter more turning at higher speeds - think driving down a mountain road, canyon twisties, etc. It's a long car and rear steer just helps it feel a bit smaller and mask some of the size/weight.