What are you guys paying for a full PPF?
#47
I just did my first wash on my PPF+Ceramic. I used Optimum No Rinse and their big red sponge, with one bucket and a single 24x16 drying towel. It took me 40 minutes including the wheels (though I did use the hose for the wheels and a fallout remover as the cleaner, did not ONR the wheels).
I cleaned mine this morning with a hose, wheels cleaner, scrubbed with a microfiber cloth brush. Nice’n clean. But the rotors were rusted right away(normal after they touch water) so I drove the car two blocks to clear them. Came back and the rust is already covered the wheel barrels. Wtf.
These matte wheels have a grit finish and not smooth, what a pita! I’m about to call the parts department and ask for a set of the 10 split spoke wheels.
#48
So I'm guessing no Glass Coat over PPF areas
Id ask the dealer but I hate to be a pain with more questions, I'm just antsy as hell waiting for my 500 to arrive
****s killing me 🤣
But then again doesn't $ 70 K plus have some leeway
Id ask the dealer but I hate to be a pain with more questions, I'm just antsy as hell waiting for my 500 to arrive
****s killing me 🤣
But then again doesn't $ 70 K plus have some leeway
#49
How you dealing with the wheels and the brake dust and rust on them. As much as I like the bespoke matte wheels, I hate trying to keep them clean.
I cleaned mine this morning with a hose, wheels cleaner, scrubbed with a microfiber cloth brush. Nice’n clean. But the rotors were rusted right away(normal after they touch water) so I drove the car two blocks to clear them. Came back and the rust is already covered the wheel barrels. Wtf.
These matte wheels have a grit finish and not smooth, what a pita! I’m about to call the parts department and ask for a set of the 10 split spoke wheels.
I cleaned mine this morning with a hose, wheels cleaner, scrubbed with a microfiber cloth brush. Nice’n clean. But the rotors were rusted right away(normal after they touch water) so I drove the car two blocks to clear them. Came back and the rust is already covered the wheel barrels. Wtf.
These matte wheels have a grit finish and not smooth, what a pita! I’m about to call the parts department and ask for a set of the 10 split spoke wheels.
#50
Yeah they will probably do the ceramic on the whole vehicle but they are not going to do the world's greatest job prepping and applying. I would expect you'll maybe get a year of performance from the coating.
If I were you I would give it that year, keeping an eye on how well water beads off the surface. Once it stops beading you know it isn't doing it's job anymore. At that point I would re-ceramic the entire car. If the ppf is still good I'd leave it on there for extra protection, but would cut and polish the whole car before reapplying a new ceramic.. Or if you don't want to ceramic, use a ceramic spray sealant every few washes to keep the paint protected.
If I were you I would give it that year, keeping an eye on how well water beads off the surface. Once it stops beading you know it isn't doing it's job anymore. At that point I would re-ceramic the entire car. If the ppf is still good I'd leave it on there for extra protection, but would cut and polish the whole car before reapplying a new ceramic.. Or if you don't want to ceramic, use a ceramic spray sealant every few washes to keep the paint protected.
#51
Lexus Test Driver
It's a great idea, will boost the performance of the ceramic they apply and will help the base layer last longer. If you do that you won't even know when it eventually fails because you'll always have a top coat applied.
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#52
So if they do it properly, PPF on bare paint. Then coat the PPF along with the entire car.
#53
#54
Lexus Test Driver
How you dealing with the wheels and the brake dust and rust on them. As much as I like the bespoke matte wheels, I hate trying to keep them clean.
I cleaned mine this morning with a hose, wheels cleaner, scrubbed with a microfiber cloth brush. Nice’n clean. But the rotors were rusted right away(normal after they touch water) so I drove the car two blocks to clear them. Came back and the rust is already covered the wheel barrels. Wtf.
These matte wheels have a grit finish and not smooth, what a pita! I’m about to call the parts department and ask for a set of the 10 split spoke wheels.
I cleaned mine this morning with a hose, wheels cleaner, scrubbed with a microfiber cloth brush. Nice’n clean. But the rotors were rusted right away(normal after they touch water) so I drove the car two blocks to clear them. Came back and the rust is already covered the wheel barrels. Wtf.
These matte wheels have a grit finish and not smooth, what a pita! I’m about to call the parts department and ask for a set of the 10 split spoke wheels.
I coated my wheels with Gtechnique C5 Wheel Armour so that helps a lot in getting them clean easily. I coated the inner barrel too but that surface is really rough even compared to the matte surface of the wheels, so I don't really know how good the coating worked in there. I don't worry too much about cleaning the barrels of the wheel to be honest. I just allow the fallout remover to do whatever it does, I don't even go into the barrels with the wheelie on a typical wash.
I find the matte wheels hide the brake dust pretty well unless you are looking at them in direct sunlight, in which case you tell they get that reddish/rusty-tinge to them.
I did discover the rear quarter panel caked in brake dust though, so I have experienced that now lol. I used the fallout remover on the rear quarter bumper area just behind the rear wheels as well to break down that dust before I hit it with the rinseless wash.
#55
Lexus Test Driver
Personally I like the Optimum product line so I use their product called "Hyper-Seal" as a drying aid every couple of washes. It's also a great glass cleaner believe it or not
But realistcally you can use any Ceramic spray topper, they are all largely the same made of the same chemical compound that does all the heavy lifting (SiO2 - Silicon Di-Oxide). Some good ones:
https://www.turtlewax.com/products/h...EpgerkuCGFzx33 - effective and economical, a little goes a long way
https://www.griotsgarage.com/ceramic...HlOAECxlYpOP_i
Adam's Graphene -
https://theragcompany.com/products/o...WWTfJvJXxMMA7R
But realistcally you can use any Ceramic spray topper, they are all largely the same made of the same chemical compound that does all the heavy lifting (SiO2 - Silicon Di-Oxide). Some good ones:
https://www.turtlewax.com/products/h...EpgerkuCGFzx33 - effective and economical, a little goes a long way
https://www.griotsgarage.com/ceramic...HlOAECxlYpOP_i
Adam's Graphene -
https://theragcompany.com/products/o...WWTfJvJXxMMA7R
Last edited by np20412; 08-30-24 at 04:29 PM.
#56
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Quote I received for my LC due in September is $10.5 which includes full PPF including inside lower doors panels, tint all around, and G2 techniq ceramic coating everywhere including wheel barrels. I have used G2 on other cars and it will easily last 8+ years IME. I use ONR to wash my car including wheels...been using it over 15 years with no issues ever.
I've done partial PPF in the past on my RS6 and an A4 and was never pleased so I am going all the way this time.
I've used G2 on 6 different cars and have not had to reapply on any of them and they all look like the day they were applied (oldest being 2016).
I've done partial PPF in the past on my RS6 and an A4 and was never pleased so I am going all the way this time.
I've used G2 on 6 different cars and have not had to reapply on any of them and they all look like the day they were applied (oldest being 2016).
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#57
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Quote I received for my LC due in September is $10.5 which includes full PPF including inside lower doors panels, tint all around, and G2 techniq ceramic coating everywhere including wheel barrels. I have used G2 on other cars and it will easily last 8+ years IME. I use ONR to wash my car including wheels...been using it over 15 years with no issues ever.
I've done partial PPF in the past on my RS6 and an A4 and was never pleased so I am going all the way this time.
I've used G2 on 6 different cars and have not had to reapply on any of them and they all look like the day they were applied (oldest being 2016).
I've done partial PPF in the past on my RS6 and an A4 and was never pleased so I am going all the way this time.
I've used G2 on 6 different cars and have not had to reapply on any of them and they all look like the day they were applied (oldest being 2016).
#58
I don’t have the time to protect my cars as much as I’d like, nor trust in family members not to accidentally scratch my car (don’t make me show pictures), sometimes parking outside in the elements. What are you guys paying for full PPF on a car? I’ll probably add ceramic on top, but that’s a much easier job for any decent detailer to do. Thanks.
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#59
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I use the cheap Costco Microfiber towels for my wheels. I wash the car first and then use the same ONR bucket for my wheels...if the MF towels get much brake dust on them then I just throw them away. Importantly I wash them separately from everything else. My RS6 had gigantic 16 inch rotors and 10 piston calipers and I never had any issues.
A high quality ceramic coating (the G2 techniq coating is warranted for 8 years) pretty much makes the brake dust a non issue....it easily washes off. Of course I wash my wheels at least every 2 weeks so there is no long term accumulation.
A high quality ceramic coating (the G2 techniq coating is warranted for 8 years) pretty much makes the brake dust a non issue....it easily washes off. Of course I wash my wheels at least every 2 weeks so there is no long term accumulation.
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