If they sound anything like the AMG turbo set ups I'm in.

 

One article stated that the LCF, once debuted, WILL take down the Ring lap times the GTR nismo and the AMG GT R put down.....now that's what I call exciting news!
And do you know anyone who owns a GT3-RS or 911 Turbo that "genty" uses it?!?!?!!?!?

V.

 

That reminds me, wasn’t the RCF prototype last year like the second fastest car all time at the Lightning lap. Maybe if they put some of that magic into the LCF they could be onto something.

 

So you read an article it's still speculation until it actually happens.I take a wait-and-see approach we've been let down before so until it actual happens it's just talk. Oh I hope LCF can break into that top ten club but proof is in the pudding. Just like JZ39 stated about RCF THAT lapped ring it was RCF GT3 spec race car. RCF GT3 was incredibly fast around the track but none of that Tech translated into the actual street car. Look at LFA all that great Tech that they developed with the motor and carbon fiber body did any of that trickle down to succeeding models no what we got were the gauge clusters. Lexus need to build LC -F GT3 car for street that would mean losing a hell of a lot of weight because that's LC biggest Achilles heel, it would need over 600hp active aero and some sort of adaptive suspension and carbon fiber brakes. I'm crossing my fingers and I truly hope Lexus finally gets this one right because the foundation is there they can do it.

And yes I do know someone who gently uses his Porsche 911 Turbo, it's his DD he actually owns several Porsches GT3 that he tracks, a gutted 718 Cayman, a 930 911 turbo that puts out 850whp those are his race toys the cars he drives aggressively as well as tracks them, and all his cars are street legal. He multi-millionaire that owns more than just Porsches he also owns McLaren 570s. I've been to track day events with him at Lime Rock, Monticello and NJMP he member Porsche Club of America and you'll be surprised how many 911 Turbo, GT3RS, GT3 and other highend track toys that never see any track time or just aggressively driven on the street. How many GT2 RS will you see get tracked or driven very aggressively on the street I'll tell you the answer not as many as you think. Many of these cars are bought by people with money who use them as trophies and status symbols and they take them out a couple of times a year, on weekends special occasions etc. Now I'm not saying that all folks that are financially well-off don't run their cars hard many of them do, I can attest to that after attending several of these track day events , charity runs, cars & coffee etc. Not everyone who owns 911 turbos, GT3 RS and other high performance exotic cars race and drive their cars hard.

My daughter goes to pvt school in town called Scarsdale NY, it's suburb of NYC and one of most affluent towns in United States, I live two towns away from Scarsdale. Picking up and dropping my daughter to school this year I've seen Mother's dropping off her daughter in Huracan Spyder the girl's name is Adriana she's in my daughter's 8th grade class there's also another mom who drops off her kid in white 911 Turbo convertible that's Rebecca she's on my daughter's volleyball team. Not to mention all Audi A8, AMG, M cars etc. My ISF might as well be a Corolla compared to some of the cars I see at my daughters school daily lol. So to answer your question yes I know several people that own these type of cars that don't run them hard!?!?!?!!?

 

Well said. Almost none of the LFAs ever see the track. Even myself, being a regular joe drive, I bought my RCF with all of the options including carbon fiber package and torque vectoring differential, but I strongly doubt I will ever go anywhere near its limits or even take it to the track. Most of the people buy performance cars to enjoy in normal driving conditions.

It is extremely fun to drive with my wife and daughter even while just going around slow turns or with downshifting to 2nd or 3rd while merging on the highway and letting the engine scream all the way to ~ 7400 rpm and taking some tight turns fast while kicking the tail out a bit. Most of the time I am going in the slowest lane as people gawk at my RCF cruising slowly. I have been challenged to drag races by the owner of a Honda CBR 600 from a colleague in my office and I politely turned it down saying he would probably beat me especially from a dead stop.There was a young kid in a modified STi trying to have a go at me and I completely ignored him. I just think it is about having fun with the car the way I want to and less about proving its capabilities.

 

 

None of this changes the fact that the ISF is a circa 2008 car and neither the RCF nor GSF could beat the lap time of a MY 2011 ISF, even with what, an additional 10cm of aggregate Supersport rubber and another 50hp? It was only until the $100k LC500 bested it by 0.6s that its Lightning Lap fell. Is that F progress??

Heavier, more expensive, slower?? Last time I considered a new car that wasn't in my decision making criteria. Usually the joke is that you pick two of three. With the RCF and the GSF, you get all three.

All of us ISF owners know that we have a special car. That's why we beat the drums.

 

Geez I really don't know how to respond to such a silly comment Do you have an orientation problem

Lou

 

ISF is faster, lighter, and cheaper (as pointed out above) than the RCF. Also holding value MUCH better than the RCF. I like all the F cars but as we all know, Lexus missed the mark with the RCF/GSF. Neither are contenders with their competitors....the ISF is a STRONG competitor in it's class.
Anyhow, I suggest selling your RCF while the value is still so so, to assure you're ready for the LCF....from what we know so far, it won't disappoint. Just hoping the price isn't over priced like the GSF/RCF were new
And to touch on the "ladies car", never once heard that. Women absolutely love my ISF of that's what you meant?!? Lol. Never fails to get compliments every time I pull it out of the garage 🙂

V.

 

I don't know where you're getting your information from but when the two were compared by Motor Trend and driven by expert Randy Pobst (for consistency in skill) the RCF was only 3/10 of a second behind the M4. If that is not contender status in the same segment, then I honestly don't know what is.

I get that you have an ISF so the ISF in your mind there is obviously going to be a bias but at least try to be fair in your judgement.

 

I'm not being bias at all as I love all 3 F cars but we just have to be honest. I wanted to own all 3 but the latter 2 just aren't justifiable.
And I'm sure we can both post videos all day of where the RCF is "contending" either it's competitors or not.... Just like this one here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...nd-drifts.html

Pro driver, same driver, same day, same everything....4 seconds behind the M4....that's hardly contending.

V.

 

Streets of Willow is a large autocross. On the big track, stock vs. stock, the M4 would outrun any F car (except the LFA) by a huge margin. Anyone suggesting differently is drinking some strong Lexus Kool-Aid.

 

Well, not everyone looks at ISF the same way you and I do due to personal bias, so it's better to just leave it alone instead of trying to convince them otherwise. In comparison, I think RCF is a cop-out model that lacks innovation in relation to the E9X and F80/90 transition. BMW took a chance to give the I6 Turbo configuration (because N54 is a widely successful contender with extreme liability) a try with more updated schematics (lighter, better electronics, more power); whether they succeeded or not is a separate issue because they did at least try. Lexus' unwillingness to try new things until it's too late (V6 TT on the LS500 in 2018 when everyone else had pretty much been doing it for years) is what irks me the most.

 

Are you saying the 3/10th second difference is a fraudulent statistic?

 

Love the interior on my 991.2 turbo cab. Lacking the intricate leather work of my DB11, but it does not offend and certainly on level with the LC.

Had a 991.1 GT3 for almost 2 years. The pdk in mine was awesome and far from jerky, The abrupt upshifts occurred when in sport modes, when shifting high in the rev range and when really getting on it. Upshifts in the lower rev ranges with less than full throttle were smooth. Certainly not as much slip as my wife's Macan S, but far from jerky. Lol, its a sports car, not a mini van.

The gen 1 pdk in my 997.2 turbo cab was a bit quirky on the downshift to 1st and sometimes 2nd, but I drove in manual mode which ameliorated that issue. They had an software update for the gen 1 in the 997.2 that smoothed it out. The gen 1 was also silky smooth on the upshift unless in sport modes, really on throttle hard and shifting in upper range rpms. My wife had a pdk in her 997.2 cab over the summer. Same with that. PDKs are a super sweet transmission.