Low oil warning
#1
Low oil warning
I purchased my 2019 brand new and at about 1950 miles I was idling on a steep incline and suddenly got the "low oil" warning. I thought it was a fluke due to the incline but today (2000 mile mark) I was driving it normally and then let it idle for mere minutes in a flat parking lot and it came on again. This time I decided to check the dipstick and it's at the low dot mark. Has anyone else had this issue? I dont see any apparent leaks anywhere. I dont use the car as a daily driver so when I do drive it, I tend to push it hard and keep it in S+ mode. Is it possible that it burned off that much oil driving it hard for the last 2000 miles? I tried searching the forums for ISF and GSF and it seems there have been similar reports from some owners. Also, the manual says this
■Engine oil consumption
A certain amount of engine oil will be consumed
while driving. In the following situations,
oil consumption may increase, and
engine oil may need to be refilled in
between oil maintenance intervals.
●When the engine is new, for example
directly after purchasing the vehicle or
after replacing the engine
●If low quality oil or oil of an inappropriate
viscosity is used
●When driving at high engine speeds or
with a heavy load, or when driving while
accelerating or decelerating frequently
●When leaving the engine idling for a long time.
The items in bold fit my situation but just want to make sure Im not the only owner experiencing this.
■Engine oil consumption
A certain amount of engine oil will be consumed
while driving. In the following situations,
oil consumption may increase, and
engine oil may need to be refilled in
between oil maintenance intervals.
●When the engine is new, for example
directly after purchasing the vehicle or
after replacing the engine
●If low quality oil or oil of an inappropriate
viscosity is used
●When driving at high engine speeds or
with a heavy load, or when driving while
accelerating or decelerating frequently
●When leaving the engine idling for a long time.
The items in bold fit my situation but just want to make sure Im not the only owner experiencing this.
Last edited by 2007sc430; 07-12-19 at 04:07 PM.
#2
This post made me go out to the garage and check mine. I have a bit over 1800 miles on the LC. I bought it in Nebraska and I live in Arizona. When I left the dealer after $ changing hands, a friend and I drove the car home. Took us 20 hrs and 30 mins. That was almost 2 weeks ago. Just checked the oil, and I'm still showing full
And, Yes, I always drive in Sport+ mode.
And a Note - Had my last Lexus, an ISF for 11 years - Never Had to Add Oil
Lou
And, Yes, I always drive in Sport+ mode.
And a Note - Had my last Lexus, an ISF for 11 years - Never Had to Add Oil
Lou
Last edited by flowrider; 07-12-19 at 04:20 PM.
#3
That's mostly highway though. I rarely take mine on the highway. So, imagine your engine playing almost constantly in range of 6-7k RPMs for 2000 miles. I live in a very mountainous area and therefore the engine is constantly working very hard, especially bc I use manual-mode a lot and tend to keep it in lower gears (2-3) to accelerate hard up the hills and also to engine-brake down the hills. I also only drive it in perfect weather and it's been sunny/very hot lately..but not sure if that's a factor. When I finally park the amount of heat coming from the front of the car is intense (but engine temp gauge reads normal).
#4
^^^^While breaking it in, I varied the RPMs coming home. On some stretches I briefly hit 115 and 120 MPH. And I'm just answering your question. No I have not experienced oil burning in my LC or my ISF. And come to think of it, I never burned a drop in my SC300 either.
Lou
Lou
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#8
I purchased my 2019 brand new and at about 1950 miles I was idling on a steep incline and suddenly got the "low oil" warning. I thought it was a fluke due to the incline but today (2000 mile mark) I was driving it normally and then let it idle for mere minutes in a flat parking lot and it came on again. This time I decided to check the dipstick and it's at the low dot mark. Has anyone else had this issue? I dont see any apparent leaks anywhere. I dont use the car as a daily driver so when I do drive it, I tend to push it hard and keep it in S+ mode. Is it possible that it burned off that much oil driving it hard for the last 2000 miles? I tried searching the forums for ISF and GSF and it seems there have been similar reports from some owners. Also, the manual says this
■Engine oil consumption
A certain amount of engine oil will be consumed
while driving. In the following situations,
oil consumption may increase, and
engine oil may need to be refilled in
between oil maintenance intervals.
●When the engine is new, for example
directly after purchasing the vehicle or
after replacing the engine
●If low quality oil or oil of an inappropriate
viscosity is used
●When driving at high engine speeds or
with a heavy load, or when driving while
accelerating or decelerating frequently
●When leaving the engine idling for a long time.
The items in bold fit my situation but just want to make sure Im not the only owner experiencing this.
■Engine oil consumption
A certain amount of engine oil will be consumed
while driving. In the following situations,
oil consumption may increase, and
engine oil may need to be refilled in
between oil maintenance intervals.
●When the engine is new, for example
directly after purchasing the vehicle or
after replacing the engine
●If low quality oil or oil of an inappropriate
viscosity is used
●When driving at high engine speeds or
with a heavy load, or when driving while
accelerating or decelerating frequently
●When leaving the engine idling for a long time.
The items in bold fit my situation but just want to make sure Im not the only owner experiencing this.
#9
After 1,000 mile break in you should have had your oil changed out and had the dealer use synthetic. The viscosity of regular oil breaks down much faster than synthetic. Also parked on inclines I would imagine that at least a quart may be inside the oil filter causing the sensor to detect a low reading. I have not had any issues. 24,500 miles on my 2018. I use Mobile 1 synthetic. I was going to change my transmission fluid and the gear oil at 30,000 miles and the shop foreman stated the transmission fluid was lifetime on the LC's. WTF? He recommended that if I wanted to change it for peace of mind to do it at 60,000 miles.
It is possible that level was low or borderline to begin with when the car was delivered by the dealer.
On high performance engines it is recommended that the oil level is checked frequently, specially after "spirited" driving.
I 'member that my 'Vettes used oil after racing them and did not sweat it, just added oil...
Hope this helps...
#10
^^^^While breaking it in, I varied the RPMs coming home. On some stretches I briefly hit 115 and 120 MPH. And I'm just answering your question. No I have not experienced oil burning in my LC or my ISF. And come to think of it, I never burned a drop in my SC300 either.
Lou
Lou
After 1,000 mile break in you should have had your oil changed out and had the dealer use synthetic. The viscosity of regular oil breaks down much faster than synthetic. Also parked on inclines I would imagine that at least a quart may be inside the oil filter causing the sensor to detect a low reading. I have not had any issues. 24,500 miles on my 2018. I use Mobile 1 synthetic. I was going to change my transmission fluid and the gear oil at 30,000 miles and the shop foreman stated the transmission fluid was lifetime on the LC's. WTF? He recommended that if I wanted to change it for peace of mind to do it at 60,000 miles.
I would add/top off oil up to the full mark to establish a reference point and then check the oil level after every 200 miles or so to see if level is being lost.
It is possible that level was low or borderline to begin with when the car was delivered by the dealer.
On high performance engines it is recommended that the oil level is checked frequently, specially after "spirited" driving.
I 'member that my 'Vettes used oil after racing them and did not sweat it, just added oil...
Hope this helps...
It is possible that level was low or borderline to begin with when the car was delivered by the dealer.
On high performance engines it is recommended that the oil level is checked frequently, specially after "spirited" driving.
I 'member that my 'Vettes used oil after racing them and did not sweat it, just added oil...
Hope this helps...
#11
The manual is clear that the first oil change is at 5000 mile mark and Lexus recommends non-synthetic for these engines (same for ISF, GSF, and this car). Im still on the fence about my first oil change, whether to make it synthetic or not. I use synthetic exclusively in all my other vehicles and all previous lexuses (sc300 and sc430) but I find it interesting that Lexus recommends synthetic in some of their current lineup but NOT for these engines.
#13
When I asked, the story I got from my service advisor as to the reason for this recommendation is that Lexus think non-synthetic oil has better thermal conductivity (heat transfer capability). I've never heard or read that before. and it seems contrary to everything I've read about synthetic oil.
Dealer just replaced the non syn oil at 4,000 miles.
I sort of agree with not using synthetics for better break in but I think its splitting hairs.
Another far fetched reason is the Lexus want the owners to come back every 5k for maintenance to increase revenue.
I will play the game until 9k, switch to synthetics and will change the oil myself from that point on.
#14
Lexus says, every 6 months or 5,000 which ever comes first on the LC 500 for oil changes. I switched to synthetic after my first free oil change.
I purchased my Mobil 1 extended service at Walmart in 5 quart jugs.
I purchased my Mobil 1 extended service at Walmart in 5 quart jugs.
#15
When I asked, the story I got from my service advisor as to the reason for this recommendation is that Lexus think non-synthetic oil has better thermal conductivity (heat transfer capability). I've never heard or read that before. and it seems contrary to everything I've read about synthetic oil.
Based on my past experience with 3 high performance engines (2 Corvettes and a Chevy SS) they all use Mobil 1 and the oil replacement light comes on at around 10,000 miles.
Also, many Lexus dealers when asked about the IS-F oil change interval when using synthetic oil, recommend 10,000 miles. The IS-F has practically the same engine as the LC-500.
I am trained in machinery design and tribology, so it is easier for me to mentally accept the risk of not following the manual to the letter in this case.
I have read of some people that switched to synthetic oil and still change their oil every 3,000 miles. I will not criticize anyone for the decisions they make. They are paying for it. More power to them.
Please refer to this article if this topic is of your interest:
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tip...-your-oil.html