Has anyone considered updating their 2nd Gen GS to have a push button start.........?
#16
Originally Posted by kietlander
good info. there you go .... smart key and push-button start with out spending more money on a new car. i wouldnt mind doing that to my car. and hey if you want to go even a step further... get magic touch door kit. it opens ur door when you touch a certain part of the door.
In other words does it work in a similar fashion to the way systems like this work on the new IS for example?
#17
If you want to just walk up to the car for unlock and have a start button, I would consider using an RFID or prox card system.
Using RFID would give you a few feet distance. Probably what the newer cars are using. Prox cards need to be inches or right on the reader.
Wire in a couple relays this would be very possible. Why just add a start button if you need to use your key in the ignition anyway? That takes me back to my '76 BMW Bavaria.
Good luck
Using RFID would give you a few feet distance. Probably what the newer cars are using. Prox cards need to be inches or right on the reader.
Wire in a couple relays this would be very possible. Why just add a start button if you need to use your key in the ignition anyway? That takes me back to my '76 BMW Bavaria.
Good luck
#18
Originally Posted by 933005spd
If you want to just walk up to the car for unlock and have a start button, I would consider using an RFID or prox card system.
Using RFID would give you a few feet distance. Probably what the newer cars are using. Prox cards need to be inches or right on the reader.
Using RFID would give you a few feet distance. Probably what the newer cars are using. Prox cards need to be inches or right on the reader.
Wire in a couple relays this would be very possible. Why just add a start button if you need to use your key in the ignition anyway? That takes me back to my '76 BMW Bavaria.
Good luck
Good luck
#19
Okay, ideas
Here are some items you could use. Hope your good with hacks....
Keyfob:
http://www.secureorderprocess.com/ti...?product_id=47
Reader:
http://www.ti.com/rfid/docs/products...STU-MRD1.shtml
So, basically what you need to do is:
1. Wire in the reader with the appropriate circuitry (this is the tough part. you may need to program a 'basic stamp' for this) See here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksea...+stamp&site=us
- you basically need the logic to:
a) when it sees a recognized card, unlock door... which doors?
b) when a above is done, activate the ignition circuitry
c) on push button start do xxx
I would estimate parts prices to be under $500.
Peter
Keyfob:
http://www.secureorderprocess.com/ti...?product_id=47
Reader:
http://www.ti.com/rfid/docs/products...STU-MRD1.shtml
So, basically what you need to do is:
1. Wire in the reader with the appropriate circuitry (this is the tough part. you may need to program a 'basic stamp' for this) See here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksea...+stamp&site=us
- you basically need the logic to:
a) when it sees a recognized card, unlock door... which doors?
b) when a above is done, activate the ignition circuitry
c) on push button start do xxx
I would estimate parts prices to be under $500.
Peter
#20
Originally Posted by 933005spd
Here are some items you could use. Hope your good with hacks....
Keyfob:
http://www.secureorderprocess.com/ti...?product_id=47
Reader:
http://www.ti.com/rfid/docs/products...STU-MRD1.shtml
So, basically what you need to do is:
1. Wire in the reader with the appropriate circuitry (this is the tough part. you may need to program a 'basic stamp' for this) See here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksea...+stamp&site=us
- you basically need the logic to:
a) when it sees a recognized card, unlock door... which doors?
b) when a above is done, activate the ignition circuitry
c) on push button start do xxx
I would estimate parts prices to be under $500.
Peter
Keyfob:
http://www.secureorderprocess.com/ti...?product_id=47
Reader:
http://www.ti.com/rfid/docs/products...STU-MRD1.shtml
So, basically what you need to do is:
1. Wire in the reader with the appropriate circuitry (this is the tough part. you may need to program a 'basic stamp' for this) See here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksea...+stamp&site=us
- you basically need the logic to:
a) when it sees a recognized card, unlock door... which doors?
b) when a above is done, activate the ignition circuitry
c) on push button start do xxx
I would estimate parts prices to be under $500.
Peter
I will not even bother attempting to do this myself. The most complicated DIY job I can do is an intake install and changing bulbs.
#22
You should do it then, probably could make some bucks from an RFID keyless aftermarket kit.
Why would the battery be dead though?
Current draw in active mode for the RFID receiver is only 100mA in active mode. In passive it is only 5mA. That is less than an alarm LED.
You could always use an alarm keyfob to 'disarm' your alarm and put the RFID into active mode.
Why would the battery be dead though?
Current draw in active mode for the RFID receiver is only 100mA in active mode. In passive it is only 5mA. That is less than an alarm LED.
You could always use an alarm keyfob to 'disarm' your alarm and put the RFID into active mode.
#24
I think we are going off topic with the RFID stuff. Maybe that should go in a new post. Back to the ignition stuff hameed get a button and look up the instruction on how they handle the remote start so you know which ignition wires to tap. same concept.
#25
Originally Posted by tonydt1g3r
I think we are going off topic with the RFID stuff. Maybe that should go in a new post.
Back to the ignition stuff hameed get a button and look up the instruction on how they handle the remote start so you know which ignition wires to tap. same concept.
#26
So I assume your not one of those do it yourself type of people huu. You best bet is to contact an alarm installer and see if they can do it for you. Theres going to be some splicing and sodering involved.
#27
Noop suggested I post this thread on http://www.the12volt.com/installbay and the response was so fast and very detailed! http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...TID=74673&PN=1
Now I just need to find a local installer who knows Compustars very well!
Now I just need to find a local installer who knows Compustars very well!
#28
Push start button? Quit trying to steal my thunder!!
Anyway, yeah. It may be pointless but hey, it's cool. From what I know, I think you have to hold down on that button until the engine turns, right? As opposed to just a quick press and release. I'm not sure, though.
Anyway, yeah. It may be pointless but hey, it's cool. From what I know, I think you have to hold down on that button until the engine turns, right? As opposed to just a quick press and release. I'm not sure, though.
#30
after catching up with about 6months span of posts i wanted to add that Yes, it is doable and has been partially accomplished by a couple guys on a 350z board.
the main problems are bypassing the Steering Wheel lock, and configuring the RFID system (not a problem for any EE familiar with thte tech.)
Range would also be an issue, Lexus has sensors all over the car for its keyless systems on new cars, thats what lets you walk to the trunk and have it open.
if you JUST want the look+feel+SOME of the security you could just hardwire the button in and have a magnetic reed switch hidden behind a panel that you would have to trip with a small magnet in your keychain to put the car into ACC/ON mode
the main problems are bypassing the Steering Wheel lock, and configuring the RFID system (not a problem for any EE familiar with thte tech.)
Range would also be an issue, Lexus has sensors all over the car for its keyless systems on new cars, thats what lets you walk to the trunk and have it open.
if you JUST want the look+feel+SOME of the security you could just hardwire the button in and have a magnetic reed switch hidden behind a panel that you would have to trip with a small magnet in your keychain to put the car into ACC/ON mode
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