no one likes Focal here??
04-04-02, 10:27 PM
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Hmmm, $7000 Rainbow Reference (http://www.rainbow-car-audio.com/home/) or the $700 Lotus Reference(http://www.seas.no/Lotus/The%20Reference.htm)....
...look pretty similar to me. You even get the white glove. Rainbow References for the price of your Dyn's?
...look pretty similar to me. You even get the white glove. Rainbow References for the price of your Dyn's?
04-05-02, 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by retrodrive
Lemmi ask my friend who owns them send me some info. I suppose it comes with some gold plated manuals. I have never heard Dynaudio speakers sounding even close to Rainbow Refference set.
Lemmi ask my friend who owns them send me some info. I suppose it comes with some gold plated manuals. I have never heard Dynaudio speakers sounding even close to Rainbow Refference set.
That would be greatly appreciated! I'm betting that the manuals are thin platinum with 24k gold trim.
Percy
04-05-02, 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by blitz
that's what i am saying!
and futhermore; i don't always trust that graph things. that's just for some info. to me. and the installation can make that graph much clear! remember, it's not a home audio.
that's what i am saying!
and futhermore; i don't always trust that graph things. that's just for some info. to me. and the installation can make that graph much clear! remember, it's not a home audio.
Percy
04-07-02, 09:03 PM
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just found this thread right now... im also running the 6.5 focals and i think theyre the best ones out there. Rainbows might be better but i think they sound perfect; alittle pricey? yeah.
04-07-02, 09:14 PM
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Rainbow Pro's can be had for close to the same price as Utopia sets (~480), better depending on where you buy from. Haven't had a chance to hear Rainbow yet, but most that have heard both sets feel the Rainbow puts out better midbass and have a much warmer sounding tweeter. Focal should own the Rainbows in power handling/compression.
04-08-02, 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by BabaBooey
Rainbow puts out better midbass and have a much warmer sounding tweeter. Focal should own the Rainbows in power handling/compression.
Rainbow puts out better midbass and have a much warmer sounding tweeter. Focal should own the Rainbows in power handling/compression.
therefore; Focal speakers are not suppose to produce HIP HOP or some heavy musics. but i will beat on any musicals like classics or jazz and so on. my opinions.
04-08-02, 10:30 AM
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Diamond is not really in the same class with Rainbows or Focals. Focals are actually known for being good with Rap and Electronica (not natural DJ composed music). For classical, vocal, instrumental music most find Focal unnatural soundind (tweeter mostly). A few of my frien'd have Utopia and Polykevlar sets and the only one I liked was PK with TLR tweeter.
04-08-02, 12:02 PM
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The bass-mid driver of the Rainbow Reference is based on the Seas W17E 002, available in standard 8 ohm version from Madisound for 130 dollars. The 4 ohm version is not readily available to the public.
No doubt each driver contains about 3,000 dollars worth of modifications. Or maybe there's another explanation.
Stevie.
No doubt each driver contains about 3,000 dollars worth of modifications. Or maybe there's another explanation.
Stevie.
04-08-02, 07:19 PM
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Seas is not base model for Refferences. That has been mentioned on different boards and more importantly by a couple of ARC representatives. Where do you get your info?
04-08-02, 07:52 PM
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I'm not going to say you're wrong, but I highly doubt a rep of a company that makes a $7000 set of speakers would admit to being able to get similar sound from $130 midbasses...
04-08-02, 09:42 PM
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That's where the graphs and, if possible, an a/b/a test in the same acoustical enviroment would come in handy.
Here's a case where two speakers may look similar but perform differently. Morel and Dynaudio. Morel also has Magnesium Silicate Polymer in their cones, plus the 3 inch voice coil and vented magnet structure. Dyn has the same thing. But the real difference here is in the makeup of the cone itself. Dyn obviously has a different MSP makeup than the Morel and this can be proven in the graphs and in listening to the speakers.
Now why does Morel and Dyn have the same technology? Simple. Dyn liscenses certain patents and technologies to Morel. This may not be true for Seas and Rainbow Reference. But for the 7k, there has to be MUCH modification going on, especially in what we don't see in the cone composition.
Still would like to see some hard evidence on the Rainbow Reference.
Percy
Here's a case where two speakers may look similar but perform differently. Morel and Dynaudio. Morel also has Magnesium Silicate Polymer in their cones, plus the 3 inch voice coil and vented magnet structure. Dyn has the same thing. But the real difference here is in the makeup of the cone itself. Dyn obviously has a different MSP makeup than the Morel and this can be proven in the graphs and in listening to the speakers.
Now why does Morel and Dyn have the same technology? Simple. Dyn liscenses certain patents and technologies to Morel. This may not be true for Seas and Rainbow Reference. But for the 7k, there has to be MUCH modification going on, especially in what we don't see in the cone composition.
Still would like to see some hard evidence on the Rainbow Reference.
Percy