no one likes Focal here??
04-02-02, 05:10 PM
#1
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: California
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
no one likes Focal here??
HELLO, no one likes Focal here? i think it's the best out of all components that i had to compare.
i know it's kindda pricey but i think it worth it
i see Dynaudio is pricey too and it seems more popular here in CL.
i also liked CDT audio. next time when i do my car project CDT is the one. anyone has this?
it's all diff. tastes........
i know it's kindda pricey but i think it worth it
i see Dynaudio is pricey too and it seems more popular here in CL.
i also liked CDT audio. next time when i do my car project CDT is the one. anyone has this?
it's all diff. tastes........
04-03-02, 02:03 PM
#4
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: California
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Percy
Eyikes!
TLR...the wierd looking ones with the dual waveguides...
Percy
Eyikes!
TLR...the wierd looking ones with the dual waveguides...
Percy
i like them too...but it's kindda big in size for a mobile.
i still think the utopia's tweeters are nice enough.
04-03-02, 02:31 PM
#5
Lexus Test Driver
Remember Me??
Blitz - I guess I'm the resident Focal guru on this board!
U'll find several of the members who have strong brand loyalties - Percy likes Dynaudio, Retro's the Imagine Dynamics man & I utilize Focal in my USAC system. Still, after demo'ing some Dyns, I AM impressed. BTW - I don't like the Supertweeter ( TN 45X0 ) but have the 165 K's in my kickpanels & the 7" midbass ( XPERT 7KX )in the front doors.
U'll find several of the members who have strong brand loyalties - Percy likes Dynaudio, Retro's the Imagine Dynamics man & I utilize Focal in my USAC system. Still, after demo'ing some Dyns, I AM impressed. BTW - I don't like the Supertweeter ( TN 45X0 ) but have the 165 K's in my kickpanels & the 7" midbass ( XPERT 7KX )in the front doors.
04-03-02, 02:39 PM
#6
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: California
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
right on, mean gene.
i love Focal. even they are expensive i had to skip my lunch when i was in a high school and saved money for the first component system.
I LOVE FOCAL!!!!
ps> TN45 is nice enough and TN51 is the real utopia, that you can see and hear.
TN45 was the best tweeter that i hear(TN51 is better, you can't really tell the difference when you drive). hey, i tried almost every tweeters. maybe you can say TN45 is my taste.
i love Focal. even they are expensive i had to skip my lunch when i was in a high school and saved money for the first component system.
I LOVE FOCAL!!!!
ps> TN45 is nice enough and TN51 is the real utopia, that you can see and hear.
TN45 was the best tweeter that i hear(TN51 is better, you can't really tell the difference when you drive). hey, i tried almost every tweeters. maybe you can say TN45 is my taste.
Trending Topics
04-03-02, 09:57 PM
#8
Search Function Inc.
Thats the whole thing. If you like Focal and MB Quart chances are you are not going to like Dyns, Rainbows and A/D/S. I will still run my Rainbows...non of the mentioned speakers above can't touch Pro's midbass and midrange...Dyns tweets are cool.
04-04-02, 06:26 AM
#9
Lexus Test Driver
U Rich?!!
D***, Retro - U must be a rich man to be running those $7500 Rainbows!!
Seriously, haven't heard too much bad stuff about Rainbows but also haven't heard them, period. Big disadvantage of living in a small town - heck, they never heard of Focal, ID or Dyns around here ( big MBQ crowd, though ). BTW - PLEASE don't lump MBQ ( now RF ) lovers in with those of us who like Focal ( even though I know the Supertweeter's quite bright ).
Seriously, haven't heard too much bad stuff about Rainbows but also haven't heard them, period. Big disadvantage of living in a small town - heck, they never heard of Focal, ID or Dyns around here ( big MBQ crowd, though ). BTW - PLEASE don't lump MBQ ( now RF ) lovers in with those of us who like Focal ( even though I know the Supertweeter's quite bright ).
04-04-02, 12:59 PM
#10
Search Function Inc.
Oh no, I don't run those, my friend does
I'd rather buy a TT for my car...priorities you know. I run a 3way Pro set. The one you are thinking about is Refference set. I will soon be upgrading t Vanadiums but they are not in US yet.
http://www.rainbow-car-audio.com/home/index.htm
I'd rather buy a TT for my car...priorities you know. I run a 3way Pro set. The one you are thinking about is Refference set. I will soon be upgrading t Vanadiums but they are not in US yet.
http://www.rainbow-car-audio.com/home/index.htm
04-04-02, 01:06 PM
#11
Re: Remember Me??
Originally posted by Mean Gene
Blitz - I guess I'm the resident Focal guru on this board! U'll find several of the members who have strong brand loyalties - Percy likes Dynaudio, Retro's the Imagine Dynamics man & I utilize Focal in my USAC system. Still, after demo'ing some Dyns, I AM impressed. BTW - I don't like the Supertweeter ( TN 45X0 ) but have the 165 K's in my kickpanels & the 7" midbass ( XPERT 7KX )in the front doors.
Blitz - I guess I'm the resident Focal guru on this board!
U'll find several of the members who have strong brand loyalties - Percy likes Dynaudio, Retro's the Imagine Dynamics man & I utilize Focal in my USAC system. Still, after demo'ing some Dyns, I AM impressed. BTW - I don't like the Supertweeter ( TN 45X0 ) but have the 165 K's in my kickpanels & the 7" midbass ( XPERT 7KX )in the front doors.
04-04-02, 07:57 PM
#12
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: California
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by retrodrive
Thats the whole thing. If you like Focal and MB Quart chances are you are not going to like Dyns, Rainbows and A/D/S. I will still run my Rainbows...non of the mentioned speakers above can't touch Pro's midbass and midrange...Dyns tweets are cool.
Thats the whole thing. If you like Focal and MB Quart chances are you are not going to like Dyns, Rainbows and A/D/S. I will still run my Rainbows...non of the mentioned speakers above can't touch Pro's midbass and midrange...Dyns tweets are cool.
how come people compare MBQ and Focal?????
that's like CIVIC and LEXUS..:eek: :eek:
when i went to CES show this year (by the way, i work for speaker manuf. company), i cound see that $8000 rainbow sets...
(LOL)^2, and i asked the guy at that booth, " why is that so expensive??" and he said "it's hand maded. "
wow.:eek: wow:eek:
ok. ok. hand maded...what a great answer!
what? i can't understand. whoz hand? president? ripped. i bet the manuf. spent no more than $100 per sets.
$7000 is pretty ***** $$$. i mean a component set for $7000? are you out of your mind? i will buy a set of Focal and donate to homeless people.
ps> oh! please compare that MBQ to sony and kenwood. no kidding.
ps^2> like i said focal, sony, rockford, dyns, rainbows, and so on..... it's all different with your tastes.
Last edited by blitz; 04-04-02 at 07:59 PM.
04-04-02, 08:23 PM
#13
Moderator - Electronics Forum
Blitz,
I have a SERIOUS issue with Rainbow Reference (7k$) speakers. For ONE thing, they won't publish their distortion ratings like Dynaudio does. For another, they won't even publish their frequency response graphs. THIS IS CONSIDERED GENERAL INFORMATION. Their advertising (hype) says their advertised frequency is within 0.1db variance. NO SPEAKER THAT I KNOW OF will do a 0.1db variance...heck, even electronics have a difficult time of 0.1 db! BTW...manufacturers will usually go for a +/- 10db (20 db swing) for rating their speakers.
When I asked about the frequency and distortion graphs, I got a very interesting email. They asked "Why?". I told them I was comparing them to the Dynaudio car audio and the ESOTAR series. They said they'll "Check into it" but haven't heard word since.
For 7 grand they had better have some REAL and REPEATABLE lab measurements. I have a Bruel and Kjaer RTA system available to make sure it does the job.
The "hand made" thing...Dynaudio does this. 86 quality checks and it's still THE most comprehensive in the industry. Even the hard core audiophiles in Europe will nod respectfully at the Dyns.
My guess is that Rainbow Audio is running scared at the mention of Dynaudio Esotar. I'll try to request graphs from them again, but for a company that is SO RELUCTANT to give out info leaves me with the feeling that they're HIDING the FACTS.
Percy
I have a SERIOUS issue with Rainbow Reference (7k$) speakers. For ONE thing, they won't publish their distortion ratings like Dynaudio does. For another, they won't even publish their frequency response graphs. THIS IS CONSIDERED GENERAL INFORMATION. Their advertising (hype) says their advertised frequency is within 0.1db variance. NO SPEAKER THAT I KNOW OF will do a 0.1db variance...heck, even electronics have a difficult time of 0.1 db! BTW...manufacturers will usually go for a +/- 10db (20 db swing) for rating their speakers.
When I asked about the frequency and distortion graphs, I got a very interesting email. They asked "Why?". I told them I was comparing them to the Dynaudio car audio and the ESOTAR series. They said they'll "Check into it" but haven't heard word since.
For 7 grand they had better have some REAL and REPEATABLE lab measurements. I have a Bruel and Kjaer RTA system available to make sure it does the job.
The "hand made" thing...Dynaudio does this. 86 quality checks and it's still THE most comprehensive in the industry. Even the hard core audiophiles in Europe will nod respectfully at the Dyns.
My guess is that Rainbow Audio is running scared at the mention of Dynaudio Esotar. I'll try to request graphs from them again, but for a company that is SO RELUCTANT to give out info leaves me with the feeling that they're HIDING the FACTS.
Percy
Originally posted by blitz
ahhhhh`~~~~~ MB Quart...
how come people compare MBQ and Focal?????
that's like CIVIC and LEXUS..:eek: :eek:
when i went to CES show this year (by the way, i work for speaker manuf. company), i cound see that $8000 rainbow sets...
(LOL)^2, and i asked the guy at that booth, " why is that so expensive??" and he said "it's hand maded. "
wow.:eek: wow:eek:
ok. ok. hand maded...what a great answer!
what? i can't understand. whoz hand? president? ripped. i bet the manuf. spent no more than $100 per sets.
$7000 is pretty ***** $$$. i mean a component set for $7000? are you out of your mind? i will buy a set of Focal and donate to homeless people.
ps> oh! please compare that MBQ to sony and kenwood. no kidding.
ps^2> like i said focal, sony, rockford, dyns, rainbows, and so on..... it's all different with your tastes.
ahhhhh`~~~~~ MB Quart...
how come people compare MBQ and Focal?????
that's like CIVIC and LEXUS..:eek: :eek:
when i went to CES show this year (by the way, i work for speaker manuf. company), i cound see that $8000 rainbow sets...
(LOL)^2, and i asked the guy at that booth, " why is that so expensive??" and he said "it's hand maded. "
wow.:eek: wow:eek:
ok. ok. hand maded...what a great answer!
what? i can't understand. whoz hand? president? ripped. i bet the manuf. spent no more than $100 per sets.
$7000 is pretty ***** $$$. i mean a component set for $7000? are you out of your mind? i will buy a set of Focal and donate to homeless people.
ps> oh! please compare that MBQ to sony and kenwood. no kidding.
ps^2> like i said focal, sony, rockford, dyns, rainbows, and so on..... it's all different with your tastes.
04-04-02, 08:47 PM
#14
Search Function Inc.
Lemmi ask my friend who owns them send me some info. I suppose it comes with some gold plated manuals. I have never heard Dynaudio speakers sounding even close to Rainbow Refference set.
04-04-02, 09:01 PM
#15
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: California
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Percy
they're HIDING the FACTS.
they're HIDING the FACTS.
and futhermore; i don't always trust that graph things. that's just for some info. to me. and the installation can make that graph much clear! remember, it's not a home audio.