Audio PHD

What's wrong with 2 set of componets in a car??

lisnup65

Dependant on the customers budget and expectations determines if coaxial or components are placed in the rear. I am a firm beleiver in a sound stage with only rear fill, but consumers are not all in agreeance with that. Those are the consumers that almost always want equal to what is placed in front. With audio systems becoming more like full blown multi-media systems it is becoming more and more important to do more than a simple coax in the rear. I just set a system up that will be an Iasca competitor that has a full bolwn video system also. The challenge was to use the DD/DTS 5.1 channels for multi-media, but then to simply make it a sound Q vehicle at the flip of a switch. This vehicle was setup with Focal Utopia 6.5" components in the kicks, a single Utopia 4" and tweeter in the upper dash, and Diamond Hex 6.5" for the rears. During CD the rears are attuated 12DB and the tweeters are delayed .15ms for. No center channel during this time. During MM playback the rears are back to full volume, the center is on, and the delay is based dependant on the users preference. This worked out very well as the customers staging is quite nice and the system is really impressive with a DVD in the source unit.

My point is their are definitely reasons to use multiple component sets. Its driven by budget and expectations. Its tougher and tougher these days to do the simple 4Ohm drivers in front and the 3DB down 8 ohms in the rear as most companies do not offer these configurations.

BabaBooey

I don't personally know anyone who prefers a majority of the sound coming from the rear of the car. If you have a multimedia setup, then yes, I can understand putting some decent rearfill in the back; however, I would severely attentuate the rear speakers when playing any music. The soundstage should be as close to head level and in the area in front of the front driver/passanger's faces. Having a loud rearfill will pullthe soundstage back to an undesirable location. Installing good components in the back will cost money that could have been spent on install or better equipment....

Percy

IME, nothing wrong! In my older setup I had the equivalent of two Dynaudio system 240mkII's. One pair for the fronts, one pair for the rears. Only reason why I went for this is well...it's Dynaudio and they're all matched sonics wise. I used to run MBQ (big time...several component sets tried over the short time I had them) with the Dyns but they didn't match well together. Plus the Dyns were much easier to tune out and were far more neutral with a wider soundstage.

Sold all the MBQ (160.03 - 2 sets, 218.03's - 2 sets, 130.03 - 1 set, 130.02 - 1 set, HX25 - 1set) for the Dyns. Thank goodness for MBQ advertising and "image brand", otherwise they wouldn't have sold like hotcakes!

Percy

Percy

And I've heard of one case where a Pontiac Firebird was still using the stock paper speakers (6x9) for rear fill. It did the job nicely for her install too!

Percy

Percy

That brings up the time when a product manager and a product designer for the Alpine F#1 Status came on board! He still never answered the electronics component question correctly though...

Percy

BabaBooey

Doesn't Richard Clark do that? I guess it's preference,but I would concentrate on frontstage significantly moreso than rearfill.

"I am a firm beleiver in a sound stage with only rear fill"

Is that a typo?

Percy

I guess it's kinda close. Front stage with a rear fill. But, either one is a good description.

Percy