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Old 04-29-12, 08:24 PM
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Hey guys so i have a set of 2 12' mtx terminators and i traded some other speakers for an amp and i cant for the life of me get any correct info on it... its a Kenwood KAC-606 the guy said its 1200w when you bridge it... is that true? because cha cha said its 600w x2 it only has a left and a right output yet all over google it says its a 4 channel and some sites say its a 2 channel..
searches on google also led me to believe its anywhere from 100w max to 350w max. if its not a big deal can you guys help me out.
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A quick Google search comes up with 2 x 100 @ 4 ohms or 1 x 300 @ 4 ohms.

Based on this - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kenwood-Ampl...item1c265b5fb7 it's definitely a 2 channel and with a 25 amp fuse it is impossible for it to output 1200w. I have a couple of 1,000w amps and minimum, they have 80 amps of fuses.
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Here be the manual (it's a little scratchy, but works)

Originally Posted by Robert_J
A quick Google search comes up with 2 x 100 @ 4 ohms or 1 x 300 @ 4 ohms.
Correct. And these amps were notorious (along with most of the Japanese units of the day) for having a very small power supply, so it's wise not to expect too much.

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and with a 25 amp fuse it is impossible for it to output 1200w
I disagree. You shoot lightning through this bad boy and you can get a hell of a lot more than 1200 watts out of it. I mean, the lifespan decreases significantly, but there are tradeoffs in everything in life...

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Here be the manual (it's a little scratchy, but works)



Correct. And these amps were notorious (along with most of the Japanese units of the day) for having a very small power supply, so it's wise not to expect too much.



I disagree. You shoot lightning through this bad boy and you can get a hell of a lot more than 1200 watts out of it. I mean, the lifespan decreases significantly, but there are tradeoffs in everything in life...

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If possible how would i run 1000w-1200w at a stable 2ohm

is there other models of the 606 tho? i found a cha cha answer that said it was 600w max on 2 ch and 1200w max bridged
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Originally Posted by Corey6310
If possible how would i run 1000w-1200w at a stable 2ohm
It's not possible. I was joking when I was talking about shooting lightning through it, mang.

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is there other models of the 606 tho? i found a cha cha answer that said it was 600w max on 2 ch and 1200w max bridged
No. There may be other models with a 606 in them, but the specific one you spoke of had the specs listed before. It's a thin class a/b amp - not extremely efficient, nor super powerful.

Why do you want 1200 watts, anyway? You're going to need a different amp if you want that much power, but it's completely unnecessary to run that kind of juice.

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Originally Posted by Big Mack
It's not possible. I was joking when I was talking about shooting lightning through it, mang.



No. There may be other models with a 606 in them, but the specific one you spoke of had the specs listed before. It's a thin class a/b amp - not extremely efficient, nor super powerful.

Why do you want 1200 watts, anyway? You're going to need a different amp if you want that much power, but it's completely unnecessary to run that kind of juice.

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Are you guys sure? I hooked it up to a 1100 sony xplod and the sub was about to blow and that was on low settings. its just killing me that cha cha said that and the guy who i got it from said that yet everywhere else its not the same... idk tomorrow ill find out, when i get my car back. he was saying something about a chip?? lmao my head is spinning at this point, ill get back to you guys tomorrow when i try it out. if im still wrong you guys have the right to call me a dumb a$$ if im right well, we will all be surprised.
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You will be wrong but I'm not a name caller. We are here to learn.

The cheapest, decent (not great) sub amps on the market right now are the Audiopipe mini series. They produce their RMS rated output and have a decent track record. I run a Powerbass ASA 1000D that puts out about 1,200w at 1 ohm. If I was going really big, I'd go with Sundown or Crescendo.

The "if hit by lightning" rating. That's a tenth of a second burst at 50% distortion.
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Originally Posted by Robert_J
You will be wrong but I'm not a name caller. We are here to learn.

The cheapest, decent (not great) sub amps on the market right now are the Audiopipe mini series. They produce their RMS rated output and have a decent track record. I run a Powerbass ASA 1000D that puts out about 1,200w at 1 ohm. If I was going really big, I'd go with Sundown or Crescendo.

The "if hit by lightning" rating. That's a tenth of a second burst at 50% distortion.
... Still havent got my car back yet but cha cha is 100% sure its a 600w 2ch amp
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Originally Posted by Corey6310
... Still havent got my car back yet but cha cha is 100% sure its a 600w 2ch amp
Don't care what "cha cha" says. It is physically impossible for that amp to deliver 600 watts for more than 5 seconds. 25A x 14V is 350W - provided the amp is 100% efficient, which it absolutely is not. Given the fact that this is an ATC fuse, it is rated to blow at 200% of current in 5 seconds, so theoretically, you could get 700W pushed through it if it were 100% efficient, but it's not, and even 600W would be pushing it, and would last 5 seconds at the most.

If you have the model number wrong, that could change the game, but from what you gave us, it is not possible.

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Originally Posted by Big Mack
Don't care what "cha cha" says. It is physically impossible for that amp to deliver 600 watts for more than 5 seconds. 25A x 14V is 350W - provided the amp is 100% efficient, which it absolutely is not. Given the fact that this is an ATC fuse, it is rated to blow at 200% of current in 5 seconds, so theoretically, you could get 700W pushed through it if it were 100% efficient, but it's not, and even 600W would be pushing it, and would last 5 seconds at the most.

If you have the model number wrong, that could change the game, but from what you gave us, it is not possible.

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i tried it out... it works better than my 800w amp, maybe they did something to it?
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Originally Posted by Corey6310
i tried it out... it works better than my 800w amp, maybe they did something to it?
What was your "800W' amp? As for "doing something" to it, if the fuse is still 25A, anything they "did" to it was nothing. The laws of physics are immutable.

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Originally Posted by Big Mack
What was your "800W' amp? As for "doing something" to it, if the fuse is still 25A, anything they "did" to it was nothing. The laws of physics are immutable.

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theres a 30A fuse in it
and my 800w amp is a SPL
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Originally Posted by Corey6310
theres a 30A fuse in it
and my 800w amp is a SPL
Still not going to be able to deliver anywhere near 1200W. Do you know the equation for power?

What model? I'm betting you're looking at "peak" power, not a realistic number (common concern, since most amps tout this "feature" but rarely can any of today's truly deliver it).

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