Just wondering: DD Audio 9515's vs. MMATS Juggernauts
12-21-02, 10:57 AM
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Re: IBOOMALOT - DD surround wrong!!!
Originally posted by kensttgs400
Hey IBOOMALOT!
You've gone on this chat board saying you designed the JUGG f/us!! Well you open up the can of worms I'm going to fill you up on it. I said I helped design the FIRST juggs(4yrs ago) which is true and the thread poster implied that DD had copied the JUGG which wasn't the case.
First of all, you did not design our surround!! Your design was wrong(too short!) and we designed a taller one that could handle 2"'s of x-max. Your design was way too short, the one you spec'd on your DD!! The surround I did for DD which mmats is now using that came from LCC is identical to mine other than being .1" wider
also that surround is made to handle 3.5" p-p throw before stretch.
Second - We totally designed all of our own voice coils - .67 ohms
1.0 ohms - 1.4 ohms - 2.0 ohms - Dual 4 ohms. never said you didn't
Thirdly - If you want to continue with that ego of yours thinking you designed our stuff, I invite you (and welcome any Lexus owners) to come by our Manufacturing facility and watch us do our OWN STUFF, with you no where around! LOL you only started doing in-house less than 1 yr ago
BTW on a LEGAL NOTE- If you're working for another speaker manufacturer and want to say PUBLICALLY that you designed our JUGGS when indeed that is not true (& I'll Prove it!!) Keep it up - I'll have a law suit slapped on you so fast you'll wish you never found this chat room!! I hope I make myself clear!!
Hey IBOOMALOT!
You've gone on this chat board saying you designed the JUGG f/us!! Well you open up the can of worms I'm going to fill you up on it. I said I helped design the FIRST juggs(4yrs ago) which is true and the thread poster implied that DD had copied the JUGG which wasn't the case.
First of all, you did not design our surround!! Your design was wrong(too short!) and we designed a taller one that could handle 2"'s of x-max. Your design was way too short, the one you spec'd on your DD!! The surround I did for DD which mmats is now using that came from LCC is identical to mine other than being .1" wider
also that surround is made to handle 3.5" p-p throw before stretch.Second - We totally designed all of our own voice coils - .67 ohms
1.0 ohms - 1.4 ohms - 2.0 ohms - Dual 4 ohms. never said you didn't
Thirdly - If you want to continue with that ego of yours thinking you designed our stuff, I invite you (and welcome any Lexus owners) to come by our Manufacturing facility and watch us do our OWN STUFF, with you no where around! LOL you only started doing in-house less than 1 yr ago
BTW on a LEGAL NOTE- If you're working for another speaker manufacturer and want to say PUBLICALLY that you designed our JUGGS when indeed that is not true (& I'll Prove it!!) Keep it up - I'll have a law suit slapped on you so fast you'll wish you never found this chat room!! I hope I make myself clear!!
mmats has made some changes in the design but its still basically what it was 4yrs ago with some added cosmetics and more VC selections.
Either way its a very nice driver and it should be even if it costs 300.00 more than a 9515.
09-08-23, 08:58 PM
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Hey IBOOMALOT!
You've gone on this chat board saying you designed the JUGG f/us!! Well you open up the can of worms I'm going to fill you up on it.
First of all, you did not design our surround!! Your design was wrong(too short!) and we designed a taller one that could handle 2"'s of x-max. Your design was way too short, the one you spec'd on your DD!!
Second - We totally designed all of our own voice coils - .67 ohms
1.0 ohms - 1.4 ohms - 2.0 ohms - Dual 4 ohms.
Thirdly - If you want to continue with that ego of yours thinking you designed our stuff, I invite you (and welcome any Lexus owners) to come by our Manufacturing facility and watch us do our OWN STUFF, with you no where around!
BTW on a LEGAL NOTE- If you're working for another speaker manufacturer and want to say PUBLICALLY that you designed our JUGGS when indeed that is not true (& I'll Prove it!!) Keep it up - I'll have a law suit slapped on you so fast you'll wish you never found this chat room!! I hope I make myself clear!!
You've gone on this chat board saying you designed the JUGG f/us!! Well you open up the can of worms I'm going to fill you up on it.
First of all, you did not design our surround!! Your design was wrong(too short!) and we designed a taller one that could handle 2"'s of x-max. Your design was way too short, the one you spec'd on your DD!!
Second - We totally designed all of our own voice coils - .67 ohms
1.0 ohms - 1.4 ohms - 2.0 ohms - Dual 4 ohms.
Thirdly - If you want to continue with that ego of yours thinking you designed our stuff, I invite you (and welcome any Lexus owners) to come by our Manufacturing facility and watch us do our OWN STUFF, with you no where around!
BTW on a LEGAL NOTE- If you're working for another speaker manufacturer and want to say PUBLICALLY that you designed our JUGGS when indeed that is not true (& I'll Prove it!!) Keep it up - I'll have a law suit slapped on you so fast you'll wish you never found this chat room!! I hope I make myself clear!!
09-08-23, 09:02 PM
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Hey LS400,
Excuse me getting "spooled" up, but IBOOMALOT is talking about our Registered and Patented product. As a business owner I take that very seriously. As far as your ?. Full suggested retail price for a Jugg 15 is $749. You can usually find dealers who may be "hungry" that may sell them for $499-$549 respectively. Be aware, they need a MINIMUM of 800 -1000 Watts RMS amplifier on them(we design & build those also) to really warrant the $'s you will spend on the speaker. If you cannot give it that much power, I highly recommend you step down to a smaller motor speaker.
ie. 140-180 oz. motor structure, 3" kapton coil, lighter cast frame or large stamped steel frame, 12-15 mm x-max 1-way, etc.
Don't waste bucks on a big speaker unless you can buy a BIG Amplifier to push it. It would only be a waste!
Hope this helps.
Excuse me getting "spooled" up, but IBOOMALOT is talking about our Registered and Patented product. As a business owner I take that very seriously. As far as your ?. Full suggested retail price for a Jugg 15 is $749. You can usually find dealers who may be "hungry" that may sell them for $499-$549 respectively. Be aware, they need a MINIMUM of 800 -1000 Watts RMS amplifier on them(we design & build those also) to really warrant the $'s you will spend on the speaker. If you cannot give it that much power, I highly recommend you step down to a smaller motor speaker.
ie. 140-180 oz. motor structure, 3" kapton coil, lighter cast frame or large stamped steel frame, 12-15 mm x-max 1-way, etc.
Don't waste bucks on a big speaker unless you can buy a BIG Amplifier to push it. It would only be a waste!
Hope this helps.
09-08-23, 09:05 PM
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So Bassfreak,
Please enlighten me when u had the chance to A/B test the DD speaker against our Jugs, along with the detailed speaker enclosure specs, along with the power that was being fed to both. I'm really interested to know this based on your blanket statement. In case you are not aware, the Jugs have won every SPL Endurance competition at the world finals in Nashville the last 4 years in a row!! Funny DD has never done that, can u please explain that??
Ken S.
Please enlighten me when u had the chance to A/B test the DD speaker against our Jugs, along with the detailed speaker enclosure specs, along with the power that was being fed to both. I'm really interested to know this based on your blanket statement. In case you are not aware, the Jugs have won every SPL Endurance competition at the world finals in Nashville the last 4 years in a row!! Funny DD has never done that, can u please explain that??
Ken S.
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DD (Digital Designs) subwoofers are known for their SPL capabilities and reputation in that regard. While Juggernaut subwoofers are also capable, DD subs are often favored for SPL applications. Sdarot TV
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