New Lexus Body Styles Coming...
09-15-04, 05:04 PM
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I prefer Club Lexus to IS300.net for various reasons, but I just checked the link and it sounds as though I had the same information as "darthvader". He's a dealership also.
And everyone complains about not enough horsepower on the IS, but then when Lexus is about to deliver, everyone is in disbelief..no, it's not possible...it's doubtful. Sheesh. Well, BELIEVE. It's coming. Lexus is going to step up just like everyone wanted.
And everyone complains about not enough horsepower on the IS, but then when Lexus is about to deliver, everyone is in disbelief..no, it's not possible...it's doubtful. Sheesh. Well, BELIEVE. It's coming. Lexus is going to step up just like everyone wanted.
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09-15-04, 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by MPLexus301
I question the validity of a 2.5L V6 with 265HP. Infiniti is using 3.5L to get 260HP, Acura is using 3.2L to get 270HP, and even Lexus is using 3.3L to get 230HP. I know the new V6 is a direct Injection design, but still 265HP is a LOT for a 2.5L engine and I can only imagine how high you'll have to revv to get that 265. Direct Injection allows for high compression, but a 2.5L V6 with 265HP would be more than 100HP per litre...which is more than the realistic limit. The M3 and Celica GT-S are the only two cars that come to mind with 100HP per litre, and this new IS is supposed to have even more? Hmmm...I think not.
I have two problems with this whole thread, 1) being 265HP from 2.5L and 2) being that Lexus plans on using superchargers. I guess forced induction isn't out of the question, but that'd be pretty "un-Lexus like". A 2 door LS with a S/C V8 seems way too good to be true, but we'll see!
I think from the IS we'll see either the 2.5L V6 (210HP) as standard or the 3.0L V-6 (245HP) as standard with (for sure) the 3.5L V6 as the optional V6, an optional 4.3L V8 with 325-340HP, and then a top end IS "GT" with 400+ Hp.
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I question the validity of a 2.5L V6 with 265HP. Infiniti is using 3.5L to get 260HP, Acura is using 3.2L to get 270HP, and even Lexus is using 3.3L to get 230HP. I know the new V6 is a direct Injection design, but still 265HP is a LOT for a 2.5L engine and I can only imagine how high you'll have to revv to get that 265. Direct Injection allows for high compression, but a 2.5L V6 with 265HP would be more than 100HP per litre...which is more than the realistic limit. The M3 and Celica GT-S are the only two cars that come to mind with 100HP per litre, and this new IS is supposed to have even more? Hmmm...I think not.
I have two problems with this whole thread, 1) being 265HP from 2.5L and 2) being that Lexus plans on using superchargers. I guess forced induction isn't out of the question, but that'd be pretty "un-Lexus like". A 2 door LS with a S/C V8 seems way too good to be true, but we'll see!
I think from the IS we'll see either the 2.5L V6 (210HP) as standard or the 3.0L V-6 (245HP) as standard with (for sure) the 3.5L V6 as the optional V6, an optional 4.3L V8 with 325-340HP, and then a top end IS "GT" with 400+ Hp.
-Michael-
Subaru gets 300HP from a 2.5L and some Evo versions get 300HP from a 2.0L...With engineering, anything is possible.
09-15-04, 07:39 PM
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Well, with turbos anything is possible. The new M5, M3, Celica GT-S, and S2000 are the only N/A cars I know that are 100hp/L under $100,000. It would seriously be a big deal if the IS had that efficient of an engine, but Toyota's done it before, and I pray they can do it again. My guess just is that they can't do it without FI.
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09-15-04, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by wantAnewLex
Subaru gets 300HP from a 2.5L and some Evo versions get 300HP from a 2.0L...With engineering, anything is possible.
Subaru gets 300HP from a 2.5L and some Evo versions get 300HP from a 2.0L...With engineering, anything is possible.
but i think 2.5L displacement with 6 cylinders is so doable for TOYOTA engineering even NA.
honda 2.0 liter K20A got 210HPS this year with only 4 cylinders
and s2000 2.2 got 240 i believe
09-15-04, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by BlueIS05
Didn't Denny Clements say a while back that Lexus would stick to selling cars that were ~30k+ and not go too much downmarket?
Didn't Denny Clements say a while back that Lexus would stick to selling cars that were ~30k+ and not go too much downmarket?
09-15-04, 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by Longo Lexus
No, nothing official yet on the new IS lineup. You guys on the east coast have all the luck because the
LF-C debuted at the New York Auto show. They've never showed that car over here. I'm personally waiting for the convertible. *drool*
No, nothing official yet on the new IS lineup. You guys on the east coast have all the luck because the
LF-C debuted at the New York Auto show. They've never showed that car over here. I'm personally waiting for the convertible. *drool*
09-15-04, 08:09 PM
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I really hope that is a 2.5L I6, I really dont want Toyota to abandon the JZ engine family.
Thanks for the good info.
Edit JZ family are all 3.0L
Thanks for the good info.
Edit JZ family are all 3.0L
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09-15-04, 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by LexusLuver
I really hope that is a 2.5L I6, I really dont want Toyota to abandon the JZ engine family.
Thanks for the good info.
I really hope that is a 2.5L I6, I really dont want Toyota to abandon the JZ engine family.
Thanks for the good info.
since jzs are iron blocks, heavy, and they dont get good MPG.
but it's one heck of an engine for FI.
09-15-04, 08:13 PM
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Toyota can easily build a 100hp+/L I6 NA engine, it's just whether they feel there is a market worth pursuing.
Cant wait to see the new Tundra and IS, the time has come to put the competition in their place.
Cant wait to see the new Tundra and IS, the time has come to put the competition in their place.
09-15-04, 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by DC52E55
do they say that the new IS will be similar to my avatar?
do they say that the new IS will be similar to my avatar?
09-16-04, 03:37 AM
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There is a AWD 2006 GS300 coming in the summer of 2005. So, get your checkbook ready mmarshall.....lol.
There is a AWD 2006 GS300 coming in the summer of 2005. So, get your checkbook ready mmarshall.....lol.
Thought you guys didn't like to see checkbooks
(LOL). You make a lot more through financing.