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Official LF-A(II) thread (Will debut at Tokyo Auto Show, Lexus details Oct 20th, 8pm)

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Old 09-19-08 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by carguy101
Lol, no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Don't know what you're getting all riled up about. What "assumptions" am I making? It was a simple question. A simple yes or no question in fact.
TRD feels very strongly about the LF-A, he just simply assumed that you were asking a rhetorical question to retort that the LF-A won't come out. You weren't; and to answer your question no. Lexus has not stated that they are putting the LF-A into production.

The 300k figure came from a Lexus dealership owners elite circle member who was in a meeting that gave details about the LF-A. He said the number will start with a 3.

TRD, not trying to start any flames here but, how do you figure that running alongside an IS-F makes it any more closer to production than a Supra. I want to see this thing come out just as bad as you do and have faith that it will come out but I don't really get that statement.
Old 09-19-08 | 08:12 PM
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Patience, good things come to those who wait...
Including old age...
Old 09-19-08 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by carguy101
Lol, no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Don't know what you're getting all riled up about. What "assumptions" am I making? It was a simple question. A simple yes or no question in fact.
The answer is of course no, and I explained why that is.

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TRD feels very strongly about the LF-A, he just simply assumed that you were asking a rhetorical question to retort that the LF-A won't come out. You weren't; and to answer your question no. Lexus has not stated that they are putting the LF-A into production.

The 300k figure came from a Lexus dealership owners elite circle member who was in a meeting that gave details about the LF-A. He said the number will start with a 3.

TRD, not trying to start any flames here but, how do you figure that running alongside an IS-F makes it any more closer to production than a Supra. I want to see this thing come out just as bad as you do and have faith that it will come out but I don't really get that statement.
Actually, the Lexus member said it would start with a 2, not a 3.

The LF-A over the years has been spotted plenty of times being tested alongside a Supra. It's reasonable to assume the Supra was being used as a very basic benchmark and point of comparison for the LF-A. As for my IS-F comment, the performance of a stock IS-F is above and beyond the performance of a stock Supra. Also, since the LF-A will be an "F" car, it makes sense for the LF-A to be tested alongside an IS-F. Like the Supra, they are likely using the IS-F as yet another basic benchmark and point of comparison. Consider that the Supra and the IS-F are the fastest production cars Toyota has ever made up to this point. The performance of the LF-A is in an entirely different league, but it would make sense to test it against the fastest production cars that Toyota has made.

Seeing the LF-A prototype running alongside an IS-F, if nothing else, indicates progress. Progress obviously means we are closer to seeing the production LF-A.
Old 09-19-08 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
The answer is of course no, and I explained why that is.



Actually, the Lexus member said it would start with a 2, not a 3.

The LF-A over the years has been spotted plenty of times being tested alongside a Supra. It's reasonable to assume the Supra was being used as a very basic benchmark and point of comparison for the LF-A. As for my IS-F comment, the performance of a stock IS-F is above and beyond the performance of a stock Supra. Also, since the LF-A will be an "F" car, it makes sense for the LF-A to be tested alongside an IS-F. Like the Supra, they are likely using the IS-F as yet another basic benchmark and point of comparison. Consider that the Supra and the IS-F are the fastest production cars Toyota has ever made up to this point. The performance of the LF-A is in an entirely different league, but it would make sense to test it against the fastest production cars that Toyota has made.

Seeing the LF-A prototype running alongside an IS-F, if nothing else, indicates progress. Progress obviously means we are closer to seeing the production LF-A.
Actually it was a "3" not a "2". I have gone through this entire website to try and find that original thread but for some suspect reason it has been deleted...very sketch .

Additionally, I ran that dealer meeting post by some of my friends who work for the company and went to the event and they all said it was 100% accurate, so expect the LFA to start at at least $300,000.
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
Actually it was a "3" not a "2". I have gone through this entire website to try and find that original thread but for some suspect reason it has been deleted...very sketch .

Additionally, I ran that dealer meeting post by some of my friends who work for the company and went to the event and they all said it was 100% accurate, so expect the LFA to start at at least $300,000.
If the LF-A will really start at over 300K, then Toyota will be pricing the vehicle out of the market, unless the LF-A offers something totally exotic and unexpected that we as of yet don't know about. Otherwise, pricing it above 300K would be a big mistake. Lexus simply doesn't have that kind of brand reputation and prestige yet.
Old 09-19-08 | 11:46 PM
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I don't care if it's a "3" or a "2", if it's not well under "2", it makes no difference to me
Old 09-20-08 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
If the LF-A will really start at over 300K, then Toyota will be pricing the vehicle out of the market, unless the LF-A offers something totally exotic and unexpected that we as of yet don't know about. Otherwise, pricing it above 300K would be a big mistake. Lexus simply doesn't have that kind of brand reputation and prestige yet.
I guess we will have to see what they come up with, but if they really do deliver on the formula of 550HP V10 in a Carbon Fiber/Aluminum body with a curb weight of ~3000lbs, there will be little that can touch the LF-A IMO. That's a killer combination.

Many of the other supercars have gotten quite fat, and if the LF-A stays light with a healthy dose of power (not to mention that everything we know of that V10 so far makes me think it will be intoxicating), they'll have a sure winner. I don't doubt that the car can deliver for $300,000...but it will really have to be a complete knockout.

Plus, working at a Lexus dealership, I can tell you that we have some very wealthy customers who are just waiting for more expensive models. People came in and snatched up LS 600hLs, LX 570s, and LS 460Ls without any hesitation. Now that's surely a different tune than $300,000 but if they only build a few then I think they should be fine in trying to find a home for all of them.
Old 09-20-08 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301
Actually it was a "3" not a "2".
That was what the post said, yes, '3'. The LF-A looks like it will be a VERY low volume vehicle - I don't know why they're bothering (seems so incongruous to Lexus' image), although it's going to be a neat vehicle.

I have gone through this entire website to try and find that original thread but for some suspect reason it has been deleted...very sketch .
Yes, it was deleted.
Old 09-20-08 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Including old age...
Old age is a given and inevitable...
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Old 09-24-08 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MPLexus301

Plus, working at a Lexus dealership, I can tell you that we have some very wealthy customers who are just waiting for more expensive models. People came in and snatched up LS 600hLs, LX 570s, and LS 460Ls without any hesitation. Now that's surely a different tune than $300,000 but if they only build a few then I think they should be fine in trying to find a home for all of them.
Some people are just biding their time waiting for it to come out. Price is not really going to come into the equation b/c $200K and $300K doesn't really equate to a huge jump in price in this class. (unless you are trying to scrape every last penny so you can have the car) Just my $0.02.
Old 09-25-08 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Some people are just biding their time waiting for it to come out. Price is not really going to come into the equation b/c $200K and $300K doesn't really equate to a huge jump in price in this class. (unless you are trying to scrape every last penny so you can have the car) Just my $0.02.
200k and 300k is a huge difference, even for this market. That's a 50% raise in price. Now I don't disagree that for some people they'll buy it no matter what but saying 200k-300k is nothing to scoff at is kinda ridiculous. Someone who has the money is still going to give it some thought if a car they thought was going to be X and now it's 1.5 x X.

OT: I was just wondering if you guys think this car will get price gouged? I know for exotics like Ferrari and Lamborghini (hell even Porsche) they have a MSRP but they usually sell for a lot more than that.
Old 09-25-08 | 07:38 AM
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According to top level "sources": It's coming, confirmed. Starting with a 3. Roadster TBD *sniff*

Not that I can afford it but the roadster concept was sexy!

We shall see if they can deliver on the performance aspect. I'm still a bit suspect on the timing as it sounds like they are still deciding on where to build the thing. What facility do they have to manufacture such a CF car? Their F1 facility or ????
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Originally Posted by Trexus
Old age is a given and inevitable...
Unlike the LF-A but it feels just as far off.
Old 10-31-08 | 02:41 AM
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Firstly I am not going to say where I got this information from , but lets just say this person is in the know when it comes to Lexus in Japan.

So I just got off the phone with him b/c I was inquiring about how long it will be before you can be put on the waiting list for when it arrives (no luck in that department) and we ended up discussing the fact that people have been saying the LF-A will be going for a figure over $300K in other parts of the world. Well he would not give me a deffinate answer but suggested that the car will go on sale for about 15,000,000 to 20,000,000 Yen (At the current exchange rate that works out to about $150K-$200K)

Anyway , thats just some info from Japan.



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