Official LF-A(II) thread (Will debut at Tokyo Auto Show, Lexus details Oct 20th, 8pm)
11-29-08 | 12:03 PM
#1711
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Let's say they sell this LF-A for $200,000. Selling the production run of 500 according to above means a REVENUE of ONLY $100,000,000 ($100 million).
How much have they spent in developing this car so far ?
And if the report that the last NSX lost $800 million is accurate ......
How much have they spent in developing this car so far ?
And if the report that the last NSX lost $800 million is accurate ......
IIRC, I remember reading about the business case for the first and second gen Prius, and how Toyota might have 'reappropriated' funds from marketing to cover the cost of the Prius development--given that the Prius greatly enhanced Toyota's image as a green manufacturer.
Not sure what the marketing budget is for Lexus (and frankly the finances of Lexus are basically a mystery other than that Interbrand has estimated their brand value ("projected profits discounted to a present value") at $3 billion annually (2007).
12-02-08 | 12:42 PM
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From an Autoweek article:
"Toyota is expected to reveal the production LF-A in 2009 and to build about 500 cars starting in 2010 or 2011. The $300,000 supercar will be powered by a 4.8-liter, 500-hp V10."
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081202/FREE/812029987
"Toyota is expected to reveal the production LF-A in 2009 and to build about 500 cars starting in 2010 or 2011. The $300,000 supercar will be powered by a 4.8-liter, 500-hp V10."
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081202/FREE/812029987
12-02-08 | 01:36 PM
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Thx for the link. Looks like the media pendulum has now swung back in favor of production reports. However, this has happened before--so while I'm not cynical enough to say "I'll believe it when I see it on the showroom floor," I will admit to having "guarded optimism." 
But can they afford this GT-F when they are laying off factory workers? Or is the project simply already far enough along?
I still remember seeing LF-A I at the auto show...SWEET! As a production vehicle...even sweeter. 
But can they afford this GT-F when they are laying off factory workers? Or is the project simply already far enough along?
I still remember seeing LF-A I at the auto show...SWEET!
As a production vehicle...even sweeter.
12-03-08 | 07:16 AM
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12-03-08 | 07:23 AM
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If they were to do it in Germany, I can only picture them showing the LF-A on the Nurburgring. I think after the production reveal, then certainly the LF-A would be shown at autoshows worldwide.
12-03-08 | 12:41 PM
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Well certainly Lexus is making Europe debuts a lot, even though that is their toughest market....IS debut, IS-C debut, etc. But then again, the IS is their focus vehicle there, along with the RXh...we got the RX/LS/GS/ES debuts here in the US...concept vehicles LF-Sh, LF-Xh debuted at Tokyo IIRC...
12-17-08 | 08:05 AM
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12-17-08 | 08:07 AM
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Will this somehow affect the Lexus LFA?
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
12-17-08 | 09:17 AM
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Will this somehow affect the Lexus LFA?
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
12-17-08 | 09:19 AM
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Trademark registrations come and go. Some don't make it into production...
12-17-08 | 11:28 AM
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Will this somehow affect the Lexus LFA?
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
Honda cancels new Acura NSX
By GREG MIGLIORE - Autoweek
with contributions from Hans Greimel, Automotive News reporter
Honda has canceled plans for the Acura NSX supercar program, company President Takeo Fukui said on Wednesday.
The car was expected to have a front-mounted V10 engine that made at least 500 hp. It would have been the successor to the first-generation NSX, which had a mid-mounted V6. That NSX went out of production in late 2005 after 14 years.
The new NSX was expected to debut as a 2010 model.
The news came as Honda announced sweeping cutbacks as it deals with the global sales downturn and economic crunch.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081217/FREE/812179996
12-29-08 | 07:29 PM
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12/29/2008, 6:26 PM
Tough times haven’t delayed Lexus LF-A
The current global economic slump has curtailed several future vehicle plans, including Honda’s next-generation NSX supercar, but Toyota has announced the tough economic climate won’t be sidelining its foray into the supercar segment.
Toyota is predicting its first ever operating loss for the fiscal year that ends in March 2009, but the Japanese automaker apparently has enough cash on hand to keep its supercar program up and running. According to Autoexpress, Toyota’s Lexus luxury brand is continuing development of its LF-A supercar, with the hopes of producing at least a few racing-spec models in 2009. Earlier reports had the LF-A delayed until at least 2010.
The news that the LF-A is still on schedule for a 2009 launch also signifies that Lexus engineers may have had a performance breakthrough. Part of the reason for the original delay was that the LF-A couldn’t best the Nissan GT-R’s and Chevrolet Corvette ZR1’s sub 7 minute 30 second ‘Ring lap times. Lexus engineers were adamant about not launching the LF-A until it could match the competition, so the news that it is inching towards production is a good sign the LF-A is closing in on that goal.
Tough times haven’t delayed Lexus LF-A
The current global economic slump has curtailed several future vehicle plans, including Honda’s next-generation NSX supercar, but Toyota has announced the tough economic climate won’t be sidelining its foray into the supercar segment.
Toyota is predicting its first ever operating loss for the fiscal year that ends in March 2009, but the Japanese automaker apparently has enough cash on hand to keep its supercar program up and running. According to Autoexpress, Toyota’s Lexus luxury brand is continuing development of its LF-A supercar, with the hopes of producing at least a few racing-spec models in 2009. Earlier reports had the LF-A delayed until at least 2010.
The news that the LF-A is still on schedule for a 2009 launch also signifies that Lexus engineers may have had a performance breakthrough. Part of the reason for the original delay was that the LF-A couldn’t best the Nissan GT-R’s and Chevrolet Corvette ZR1’s sub 7 minute 30 second ‘Ring lap times. Lexus engineers were adamant about not launching the LF-A until it could match the competition, so the news that it is inching towards production is a good sign the LF-A is closing in on that goal.