Originally Posted by Dave600hL

Did you just not answer your own question? Why are they taking so long?

(Takes a deep breath), You talk of porsche and other super cars and how established they are and how well they have perfected there cars and even stated that the 911 could be considered a bench mark(which I agree). So what makes you thing Lexus can slap together a car that will compete or even better these cars in "your" acceptable time frame which would be what... 4 years as oppossed to the time it has taken for porsche and co to get their cars right? Your expectations are ridiculus and not thought out IMO.

I believe that lexus at least wants to make a car that is right the first time. I mean have a look a the GTR, it took 8 years or so to be brought to life and they still got so many things wrong, I am hearing all sorts of compliants which I won't go into (not saying the GTR is a failure or not a good car). The IS-F was a complete after thought and I can only hear good things about it, no serious mechnical problems and it has a the worlds first 8 speed transmission.

I am sorry I just can't seem to grasp why you are so disappointed???

Originally Posted by MPLexus301

I too think Lexus wants to get it right the first time...if they didn't then it wouldn't be taking almost ten years for the car to arrive. I am just concerned that they are going to be sitting on the same formula for too long while the competition is being redesigned and upgraded. Hopefully the car is being designed so far above the F430, Gallardo, and 911 that even when their successors are introduced the LF-A will still make big splash. As the years wear on I am simply concerned about the LF-A's ability to remain competitive and wow the public when they've already been waiting for the car for the last 4 years.

Originally Posted by f=ma

Don't forget to take into consideration that toyota/lexus has A LOT more stuff on their plates than Ferrari, Lambo, and Porche. And i agree that lexus likes to take their sweet *** time, but honestly hasn't that paid off? Honestly what car has lexus come out with that failed miserably?

Originally Posted by Trexus

I wouldn't go as far to say the SC 300 or IS sportcross failed miserably but those are the only two models I can think of that Lexus discontinued.

The ES has been around since the beginning as well as the LS. The SC 400 evolved into the SC 430, the GS is still around, the IS is holding it's own, the RX does very well and the GX and LX are doing fine. The only new model coming out this fall is the HS 250h and I'm sure it will do just fine. Then I'm assuming the LF-A will come out at the end of 2010 as a 2011 model...

Originally Posted by speedflex

A large part of it is that Toyota just won't commit to whether the LF-A will be produced or not.

Originally Posted by GFerg

And the IS-F has a full rollcage. Is that mandatory for the ring?

Originally Posted by Dave600hL

Oh noes.... My informant has just let me know that lexus could be limiting the production for the LF-A to 500 units (He could not say if this was for Japan only or for the world market) and that the price will be around $250K!!!!!

Originally Posted by encore888

Interesting. The IS-F had a 500 unit sales target in Japan for 2007, and then AutoWeek had an item saying that the IS-F was limited to only 1,000 units in the US

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/l...or-u-s-market/

Originally Posted by encore888

IMO it would not be surprising to have the car limited to 500 units, although if there were better economic times there could be more.

Originally Posted by jruhi4

I refer you to my commentary my.IS Front Page story from January 2007:
http://my.is/forums/f41/lexus-f-200-...ly-u-s-318596/

Later accounts indeed have Lexus copying a page from the Bugatti Veyron playbook: "We'll build 500 cars only and we'll keep it in production for as long as it takes to build and sell the 500."