encore888

Agreed!!! Thing is, with the definition of exotic being murky, it can become an argument real quick. That being said, like how a boat is defined as being able to fit on a ship but not vice versa, I think most people will agree the LFA is an exotic supercar.

As for the reveal, I'm afraid there might not be any live stream...anything would be great, but at this point I'm wondering if I have to get an update from CNBC reporters at the show.

jruhi4

Let me add one more point to the borderline inane discussion: by definition, a mid-engine car is one whose engine lies within its wheelbase, period. Most people associate the term mid-engined with a rear-mid-engined car such as the "entry-level" V8 Ferraris, most Lamborghinis, Porsche Carrera GT, Boxster and Cayman and, yes, the Pontiac Fiero and Toyota MR2.

Yet, it is every bit as accurate (and they derive every bit of the handling and balance benefits) to consider front-mid-engined cars as such. By this I mean sports cars whose engines lie just behind the front axle line. Thus, sports cars such as the Honda S2000, 3rd-generation (NC) Mazda MX-5 Miata, Nissan 350Z/370Z, Ferrari 599 Fiorano and, yes, the Lexus LFA are every bit as worthy of being described as mid-engined as rear-mid-engined cars. And please note that I'm talking strictly in terms of engine placement and its inherent handling/balance benefits. I'm NOT entering a discussion about which mid-engined (be they front or rear) cars are worthy of the supercar exotic classification and which aren't.

MR_F1

........cliffs?

spwolf

egzotic by the definition means exclusive, hard to get.

there are plenty of egzotics that were not great cars :-).

TRDFantasy

Strictly your opinion, and nothing else.

How many of those vehicles you listed with V10 engines are internal combustion, naturally aspirated, gasoline engines that rev to 9000 RPM? Don't respond, because I'll answer it for you; the answer is NONE of them. The LFA engine is totally unique in this regard. The only engine that comes closest to the LFA would be the Carrera GT's engine.

There were thousands and thousands of NSXs sold over the years. That is why it is NOT an exotic. An exotic by definition has to be rare and exclusive (among other things), and the NSX was definitely not rare nor was it exclusive.

The Corvette ZR-1 has front-mounted radiators, a supercharged V8, less than ideal weight distribution, only parts of the car are carbon fiber, and a conventional manual rear-mounted transmission.

That is far from having any similarities with an F1 car, and the 'Vette ZR-1 apart from being front engine and having 4 wheels really has very few similarities to the LFA.

LexFather

I've actually been laughing all day thinking about how the "diss" list for the LF-A is naming other V-10 equipped vehicles. In a debate, you don't bring up a point that can easily be attacked if your stance is even poorer.

That would be the V-6 here. If you are going to list every V-10 vehicle, than we should list every V-6 equipped vehicle and say the same ridiculous message "its not exotic b/c it has a V-6".

So to be funny, lets name some V-6 cars, using this completely flawed logic
Malibu
Sonata
Camry
Accord
Fusion
Impala
TSX
ES 350
C230
IS 250
Tacoma

What else has a V-6

GiantsFan

iTrader: (9)

3 days until the lfa is unveiled


-.... i wanted that in caps, but the forum seems to auto - lower case it..

3 days!!!

JessePS

Its almost here

Trexus

Actually 2 days since Japan is ahead of us timewise.

Too many restrictions of Club Lexus huh?

GiantsFan

iTrader: (9)

So what time is the US time for the lexus presentation?

Dave600hL

Apparently there is going to be two models or types if you will that you can choose from. I also heard that the entire body will be carbon fiber. Still no word on the weight though...

Gojirra99

So it's a coupe and a convertible? Still total of only 500 units ? And two different prices too ?

MR_F1

Roadster/Coupe?

CF body/Al Body?

hmmmmmmm

encore888

Reports were, as stated before, 1 'standard' model and 1 'track-ready' / racing spec model.

TRDFantasy

I think this is most likely to be the case, but we shall see.