Official LF-A(II) thread (Will debut at Tokyo Auto Show, Lexus details Oct 20th, 8pm)
06-26-07 | 07:19 PM
#511
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Here is my story: I haved worked at an Acura Dealer for last 16 years my nsx is the first one we sold in 91 the guy that bought the car is a doctor , he serviced the car religously at our store, and the reason he drove so many miles is the fact that he had two practices about 75 miles apart so he was in for service frequently, and for the most part he came to me for service. so last July he came in for his last service, jokingly I told him that he needed to dump the car and I would give him $2500 cash right now, we laughed about it and he was on his way, at this time he had about 335,000 miles and the car was hurting almost every seal was leaking from the engine, the oil was leaking so bad that you couldnot drive more than 3-4 miles without a trail of blue smoke from the back of the car, the abs light was on the clutch was toast, a/c compressor siezed, antenna stuck up driver window would barely close, the paint on the roof faded out, front bumper was 1/4 of inch lower because he rear ended someone the left rear wheel was different than the other three because he had a flat tire and drove the car in on the bare wheel which was ground down to the size of a 12 inch wheel, when the tire came apart tore the left rear 1/4 panel and the left side of the car 2 inch wide scratch down the side of the car. That is the majority of the problems with the car. he decided at about 285,000 miles that he was going to do the least amount of repairs possible and drive the car till it stopped. I guess things change because about 2 weeks after his july visit his car was towed in with a dead battery and blown main fuse, he had sold his practices and house and was moving to another state when the shipper came to pick up his cars the nsx was dead and the guy jumped the car backwards and blew the fuse, so he leaves the car behind. The doctor now needs to get rid of the car quickly as he doesnot have time to arrange another shipper. So he asked me if I was Still interested in his car, I explained to him that I really couldnot afford it as I have 3 kids 1 in college and 2 soon to follow but I was curious so I asked him what he wanted for it and he said make an offer, I did and he accepted and here we are now the car is about 90% back together and i drive it everyday my current odometer is 340425 miles. That's my story
That was in 02/05. ^^ There are several with over 150k.
'06
ok i just turned 350130 miles this weekend still running strong, had to replace 1 spool valve since after 2 attempts at resealing didnot work next project is to paint the hood and fenders
http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85262
355,489 miles.
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06-27-07 | 06:33 PM
#514
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06-27-07 | 06:38 PM
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Okay, I just played the video. That thing is sick. Sounds sick and OMG, no body roll.
This car is what Lexus needs. B/C I can see the engineers going to work on the next GS and IS and making them a bit more nimble.
This car could take Lexus to the next sport level.
This car is what Lexus needs. B/C I can see the engineers going to work on the next GS and IS and making them a bit more nimble.
This car could take Lexus to the next sport level.
06-28-07 | 07:13 AM
#516
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Car & Driver - July 2007 - The Hot list
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
Also...
"Expected to debut in the spring of 2009 in limited numbers, Sources suggest a price close to $200,000"
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
Also...
"Expected to debut in the spring of 2009 in limited numbers, Sources suggest a price close to $200,000"
06-28-07 | 08:22 AM
#518
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Car & Driver - July 2007 - The Hot list
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
Also...
"Expected to debut in the spring of 2009 in limited numbers, Sources suggest a price close to $200,000"
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
Also...
"Expected to debut in the spring of 2009 in limited numbers, Sources suggest a price close to $200,000"
06-28-07 | 08:53 AM
#519
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06-28-07 | 09:28 AM
#520
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06-28-07 | 09:57 AM
#521
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Plus why should I care about an automotive journalist. I know what I like and don't like. I don't need a person that writes articles in a magazine to try and make me change my mind because of what they like or dislike about a car.
06-28-07 | 10:18 AM
#522
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Car & Driver - July 2007 - The Hot list
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
In discussing future cars, Car & Driver writes:
What Might Go Wrong: The $64,000 question is this: Does Toyota-or should we say Lexus?-have the brand image to justify a sticker price up there in Ferrari F430 territory? We're not so sure."
Image and brand identity especially in the $200K range count even more than in the sub $100K category.
Now let's see what happens in the market in a year or two and revisit this thread again.
06-28-07 | 10:44 AM
#523
That considered, Lexus' own market research has shown that some of it's buyers are more affluent than they have models to match, and the company noted to expect more expensive models in the future. Obviously the first of those are the LS 460L and LS 600hL, and now the LX 570 will be coming, and I'm sure the GT-F/LF-A will be the most expensive of them all.
Considering that the company sells some 320,000 vehicles a year, I really think that they can find 2,000-5,000 existing owners to sell the car to- people who enjoy the brand and have the money to purchase something of this caliber. And that is only existing owners. Plus this will be a low volume car, so I have a hard time thinking that they are going to flood dealer lots with them and lose money with the cars sitting on lots. Even the first batch of LS 600hL's are special order only, and I wouldnt be surprised if the LF-A came in a similar fashion. The company is good with distribution.
Considering that the company sells some 320,000 vehicles a year, I really think that they can find 2,000-5,000 existing owners to sell the car to- people who enjoy the brand and have the money to purchase something of this caliber. And that is only existing owners. Plus this will be a low volume car, so I have a hard time thinking that they are going to flood dealer lots with them and lose money with the cars sitting on lots. Even the first batch of LS 600hL's are special order only, and I wouldnt be surprised if the LF-A came in a similar fashion. The company is good with distribution.
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06-28-07 | 10:47 AM
#524
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There is very little doubt that if Toyota prices the LF-A around $200k, most buyers in that price range will go for a Ferrari F430/500.
Now, if the LF-A is priced in the 100-130K range, it would not be in the same price category as the Ferrari and Astons but it would then be competing against the 911 Turbo and the M6. Remember now that the M6 has a V-10 that is good for the magic 500+ hp as well. It would be absolutely delightful if the LF-A is priced like the M6 and over the years, because of its inherent goodness, moves up in price. Exactly what the LS400 did when it appeared. It was priced like an E class mercedes and is now well above that price point.
I hope Toyota gives this good consideration.
Now, if the LF-A is priced in the 100-130K range, it would not be in the same price category as the Ferrari and Astons but it would then be competing against the 911 Turbo and the M6. Remember now that the M6 has a V-10 that is good for the magic 500+ hp as well. It would be absolutely delightful if the LF-A is priced like the M6 and over the years, because of its inherent goodness, moves up in price. Exactly what the LS400 did when it appeared. It was priced like an E class mercedes and is now well above that price point.
I hope Toyota gives this good consideration.
