PhilipMSPT

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Such as...

LexFather

Don't want to post in public, I enjoy the sites for the most part.

STIG

As far as I've seen on the other forums, there are true enthusiasts out there welcoming the LF-A. But I have also seen many skeptics out there bashing the car.

I personally doubt the new recorded time, because it's too good to be true for a car making less than 600hps. If the time stands true, it will be a great day for all the Lexus enthusiasts out there. This car will change the history of Toyota and Lexus.

XeroK00L

I don't doubt the time posted by the test mule, but I do share the doubt cast by many skeptics about whether the production car can even come close, simply because it'll have to concede to many production concerns such as emissions (less aggressive tuning), safety (more heavy safety items), longevity (the IS-F's redline was lowered from 7000rpm to 6800rpm because Toyota's corporate culture enforces a 200,000-mile longevity) and tire regulations (who knows what tires the 7:24 test mule was running), etc., not to mention that, to be badged as a Lexus, it'll likely carry a good amount of luxury items as standard such as power windows and seats, a full-fledged premium audio system, above-average sound insulation, 6 airbags, etc., all of which can add up to a lot more weight than the test mule posting the 7:24 lap time.

vraa

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When it comes time, whatever speeds and times the final car gets will not matter.

What will matter is that the engineers at Toyota were able to do this, to be able to prove that they can throw down the gauntlet at anytime.

This car will come out at a price point a few ten thousand $ cheaper than a Ferrari 430, but will have equal performance and mystique. This is going to be basically what Ford wanted the GT to be themselves. Except it draws a lot less of "heritage" and other bull**** and more about technical superiority and nuances in the details of the engineering.

I would like to just once again quote STIG just a few posts up, I think he very concisely summed up my feelings.

O. L. T.

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Mike I am having to scroll from here to the side of hell and back to read each post stretched out on this page with those pics in it.

FYI, they are kinda wide.

O. L. T.

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Tell the skeptics when they are riding a car that can outlap a Pagani Zonda F at the ring to come back when they have something useful to say. Only one car has ever done it... guess who?

LexFather

my bad...24"screen spoils me


6:55 Radical SR8 360 PS/650 kg Michael Vergers 2005-09-28 Video
7:11 McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car) Mika Häkkinen Source
7:12 Radical SR3 Turbo 320 PS/500 kg Phil Bennett Test Drive 07/03
7:14 Donkervoort D8 RS 398 PS/760 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 11/05
7:15 Edo Porsche GT2 RS 612 PS/1284 kg Patrick Simon 2005-08-04 Video
7:18 Donkervoort D8 RS 370 PS/670 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 12/04
7:22 Loaded BMW M3 CSL ~600PS/1427kg Richard Göransson 2007-11-05 video incl RG + 30L fuel, MPSC tires, (Sport Auto Lap with 3 overtakes)
7:24 Pre-Production Lexus LF-A 1SICKLEX 2007 (with Jay-Z playing out of Mark Levinson system)
7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 650 PS/1230 kg 2007-09 video Semi-wet conditions.
7:28 Porsche Carrera GT 612 PS/1380 kg Walter Röhrl 2004 Autobild 07/04
7:32 Porsche 997 GT2 2008 530 PS/1440 kg Walter Röhrl 2007 Motor Authority, Autobild Semi-slicks tires.
7:32 Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 PS/1380 kg Gemballa
7:34 Koenigsegg CCR 806 PS/1140 kg Horst von Saurma 2005-10-17 - 2005-10-18 Sport Auto Cold conditions
7:38.54* Nissan GT-R 480 PS/1740 kg Toshio Suzuki 2007-09-24 *NISSAN 10/7 Video[3] bridge to gantry. Run flat tires. Semi-wet conditions.
7:39 Porsche 997 GT3 415 PS/1395 kg Vincent (Enzo) Brulo Sport Auto 05/06
7:39 TechArt GTstreet (07) Sport Auto 10/07
7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 626PS/1768 kg Klaus Ludwig AutoBild
7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16/4 1001PS/1888 kg Wheels Magazine Australia, 12/05
7:41 Manthey Porsche GT3 M410 413 PS/1320 kg Lucas Luhr Autobild 07/04 160.868 km/h
7:42 Ford GT 550 PS/1521 kg Octane magazine, 11/05
7:42.9 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 505hp / 1450 kg Jan Magnussen 2005 Motor Trend[4] Muggy conditions
7:43 Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:43 TechArt GTstreet Sport Auto 08/01
7:44 Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/05
7:46 Porsche 996 GT2 462 PS/1450 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/01
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 620PS/1690 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:47 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear 640 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/07 Sport tyres
7:48 Audi TT 225 Coupe Quattro 365 PS/ 2005 [citation needed]
7:49 Blitz Toyota Supra 750PS Herbert Schürg 1997 Video Option Vol.50 Refer to link for modification details
7:50 BMW M3 E46 CSL 360 PS/1421 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/03
7:50 BMW X5 E53 LM Hans-Joachim Stuck 2000 EVO magazine 08/2005 BMW M70 S70B56 engine from a V12 LMR producing 750 bhp
7:50 Nissan GT-R 480ps/1740kg(3800lb) Horst von Saurma SportAuto 12/07 Semi-wet track
7:53 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 405 PS/1409.1 KG (3100 lb) Dave Hill [9]
7:54 Mercedes CLK DTM AMG 582 PS/1678kg Sport Auto 03/05
7:55 Caterham R500 Superlight 233 PS/460 kg Robert Nearn EVO magazine 07/2000
7:55 Ferrari F430 F1 490 PS/1493 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/06
7:56 Honda NSX-R (NA2) 280 PS/1270 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 08/02
7:56 Porsche 996 Turbo 420PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/00
7:56 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/04 Sport tyres
7:59 Porsche 997 Carrera S Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/04 PASM setting “Performance”
7:59 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Dirk Schoysmans Autocar magazine 1997 Without speed limiter
7:59 Dodge Viper SRT-10 2005-11-?? Motor Trend
7:59 Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Subaru News 2004
8:01 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 280 PS/1540 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series Prototype (weight/horsepower different from production car)
8:02 Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series 507 PS/ 1790 kg Autobild 07/07
8:02:033 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione 450 PS/ 1580 kg [citation needed]
8:03 Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005) 380 bhp/1570 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/05
8:03 Porsche 911 GT3 360 PS/1391 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/99
8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) 280 PS/1230 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 02/06
8:05 BMW M3 E92 420 PS/**** kg Horst von Saurma* Sport Auto 12/07 *Confirmation of weight and driver requested
8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video "NISMO Beast Unleashed"
8:07 BMW Z8 E52 400 PS/1615 kg autobild.de 06/01
8:09 Audi RS4 420 PS sport auto 06/2006
8:09 BMW M6 E63 507 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/05 Sport tyres, limited to 259 km/h
8:09 Honda NSX-R 320 PS/1467 kg Sport Auto 08/02 Sport tires, suspension modification
8:10 Chrysler Viper GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/97
8:11 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype 280 PS/1420 kg Takayuki Kino****a Best Motoring Video "Carrera Invasion"
8:13 BMW M5 E60 507 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/04
8:13 Ferrari 355 GTB Sport Auto 10/1994
8:22 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo GM[citation needed]
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 280 PS/1430 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD
8:22 BMW M3 E46 343 PS/1584 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/00
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/7 321 PS/1445 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/98
8:24 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Sport Auto 05/04 Sport tires
8:25 Jaguar XKR Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:25 Porsche Cayman S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/99 Sport tires
8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/02 Sport tires
8:26 BMW 335i E92 Coupe 306 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 306 hp
8:26 Nissan 350Z Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/03
8:28 Porsche 911 Carrera (993) 272 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 07/97
8:32 Porsche Boxster S 252 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/99
8:38 Honda NSX Sport Auto, 08/97
8:39 Honda S2000 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/00
8:40 Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic 344 PS/1505 kg Sport Auto 07/97 Crash involving civilian later in the lap
8:42 Lotus Exige Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/00 Sport tires
8:47 Honda Civic Type-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/01
9:12 Jaguar S-Type Diesel Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)[10]
10:08 Ford Transit (van) Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 6, episode 7; Bridge to Gantry)

LexFather

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL0Mi...eature=related

In translation, the guy says "Got damn that sounds incredible, that 1SICKLEX dude can drive"

LexFather

I just had a thought, I think the LF-A is the "halo" Lexus/Toyota will have first and then (AND I HOPE) come out with multiple coupes after (Supra, next AE86, Celica replacement, MR2 replacement, etc).

vraa

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It's the ads that Clublexus has on the right.
I have a 15" widescreen MBP and the only reason I have to scroll is because of that.

O. L. T.

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No it's not. I clearly said I cannot read the posts. When I cannot see the edit or quote button, nor the page selector.... it's inside the tables. Like.... I wouldn't know when a pic is too wide? How your screen displays things is irelevant to others. I have a 17in widescreen laptop that has 4in of room on both sides. The standard laptop that is not a mac widescreen is not going to display it properly due to the size of the pics.

vraa

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I was just mentioning, don't get so defensive about it.

I browse on a relatively small resolutioned display but the pics are fine. The obsession of not allowing large pics needs to be let up. If anything I'm sure the IB techs could just write a small script to resize pics on display.

Besides, I think the photoshop jobs were excellent, I have the black one as my wall paper right now -- I just wish I had a higher resolutioned version

JessePS

great news. after 11 days of not knowing what has been going on

O. L. T.

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