Official LF-A(II) thread (Will debut at Tokyo Auto Show, Lexus details Oct 20th, 8pm)
01-13-08, 06:56 PM
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I like the side and rear views a lot. The front still looks a bit heavy and awkward to me. The interior just seems very strange. 
01-13-08, 08:10 PM
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I wonder how functional this one is, if it has a regular non SmartAccess ignition, etc. could it actually be a 'bare bones' functional version underneath without some frills?
01-13-08, 11:14 PM
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from the pics, the front end looks a little too toned down from the lf-a 2. but it still looks good. just not as extreme as you would expect an exotic sports car to look. probably why people think it looks more like the next gen sc. i bet it looks killer in person though.
01-13-08, 11:26 PM
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01-14-08, 12:47 AM
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If the next SC gets a lot of cues from the LF-A I'm all for it. 
However they need to plan their products right...
IMO the LF-A's appearance is in many ways a spiritual successor of the first SC, but of course this is a whole other level.
Back in the day, "The Lexus Coupe" represented the pinnacle of Lexus design and performance in a 2+2 fashion, but now the torch has been passed and the LF-A is doing that and more. I hope that leaves room for the SC to still make an impact. Alternatively they could just make the LF-A produced as the SC-F, with the hybrid version or something being the SC 600h or something. An IS coupe could take an SLK-like position...so it's either 3 coupes/convertibles, LF-A Roadster - SC convertible - IS convertible (the first and third have been spotted in spyshots, testing, etc.; the second exists as the 430)...or 2 convertible/coupes, or a mix combo...
However they need to plan their products right...IMO the LF-A's appearance is in many ways a spiritual successor of the first SC, but of course this is a whole other level.
Back in the day, "The Lexus Coupe" represented the pinnacle of Lexus design and performance in a 2+2 fashion, but now the torch has been passed and the LF-A is doing that and more. I hope that leaves room for the SC to still make an impact. Alternatively they could just make the LF-A produced as the SC-F, with the hybrid version or something being the SC 600h or something. An IS coupe could take an SLK-like position...so it's either 3 coupes/convertibles, LF-A Roadster - SC convertible - IS convertible (the first and third have been spotted in spyshots, testing, etc.; the second exists as the 430)...or 2 convertible/coupes, or a mix combo...
01-14-08, 02:32 PM
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104250
i don't understand how there's so much hatred from some people at the BMW forums.. why can't we all just car enthusiast and not stick to a damn brand cult?
i don't understand how there's so much hatred from some people at the BMW forums.. why can't we all just car enthusiast and not stick to a damn brand cult?
01-14-08, 02:57 PM
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First off, I really don't get all the talk about how the LF-A is supposedly a replacement for the SC, or somehow takes its place in the lineup. The LF-A is a high-performance halo car and the SC isn't going anywhere. There's nothing to suggest the SC won't get the 4.6 nor remain at the very least a typical GT (whether or not it's a hardtop convertible). Lexus is still going to have plenty of opportunities in making the SC a unique, brand-enhancing car. I admit would like to see a coupe version of the SC, however.
I was very surprised by this also. I think it was a great move.
It's very simple - they're threatened by it. If there's one thing I find in common among many BMW fanboys, it's that they have a huge superiority complex. It's fascinating, really. My roommate (who is, of course, a good friend) will occasionally forget that I'm a pro-Lexus consumer and just bash Lexus in a degrading manner even when I'm sitting right there in front of him.
Those BMW fanboys just can't deal with the fact that any Japanese manufacturer - much less Lexus - is encroaching on their territory. Now that they can't make fun of the performance offered by the IS-F or LF-A, they'll try other avenues. Like the exhaust pipes.
I don't know why people can't just be happy that there are a slew of advanced, high-performing entry-level sedans coming out at price points that the vast majority of Americans can afford. A 4.0L V8 M3 making 425hp for $54k? A 5.0L V8 Lexus sedan that out-slaloms a Porsche Cayman for $56k? Both doing 0-60 faster than a 360 Modena? It's a great time to be in the market for performance sedans, I'll tell you that.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=104250
i don't understand how there's so much hatred from some people at the BMW forums.. why can't we all just car enthusiast and not stick to a damn brand cult?
i don't understand how there's so much hatred from some people at the BMW forums.. why can't we all just car enthusiast and not stick to a damn brand cult?
Those BMW fanboys just can't deal with the fact that any Japanese manufacturer - much less Lexus - is encroaching on their territory. Now that they can't make fun of the performance offered by the IS-F or LF-A, they'll try other avenues. Like the exhaust pipes.
I don't know why people can't just be happy that there are a slew of advanced, high-performing entry-level sedans coming out at price points that the vast majority of Americans can afford. A 4.0L V8 M3 making 425hp for $54k? A 5.0L V8 Lexus sedan that out-slaloms a Porsche Cayman for $56k? Both doing 0-60 faster than a 360 Modena? It's a great time to be in the market for performance sedans, I'll tell you that.
01-14-08, 04:46 PM
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First off, I really don't get all the talk about how the LF-A is supposedly a replacement for the SC, or somehow takes its place in the lineup. The LF-A is a high-performance halo car and the SC isn't going anywhere. There's nothing to suggest the SC won't get the 4.6 nor remain at the very least a typical GT (whether or not it's a hardtop convertible). Lexus is still going to have plenty of opportunities in making the SC a unique, brand-enhancing car. I admit would like to see a coupe version of the SC, however.
I was very surprised by this also. I think it was a great move.
It's very simple - they're threatened by it. If there's one thing I find in common among many BMW fanboys, it's that they have a huge superiority complex. It's fascinating, really. My roommate (who is, of course, a good friend) will occasionally forget that I'm a pro-Lexus consumer and just bash Lexus in a degrading manner even when I'm sitting right there in front of him.
Those BMW fanboys just can't deal with the fact that any Japanese manufacturer - much less Lexus - is encroaching on their territory. Now that they can't make fun of the performance offered by the IS-F or LF-A, they'll try other avenues. Like the exhaust pipes.
I don't know why people can't just be happy that there are a slew of advanced, high-performing entry-level sedans coming out at price points that the vast majority of Americans can afford. A 4.0L V8 M3 making 425hp for $54k? A 5.0L V8 Lexus sedan that out-slaloms a Porsche Cayman for $56k? Both doing 0-60 faster than a 360 Modena? It's a great time to be in the market for performance sedans, I'll tell you that.
I was very surprised by this also. I think it was a great move.
It's very simple - they're threatened by it. If there's one thing I find in common among many BMW fanboys, it's that they have a huge superiority complex. It's fascinating, really. My roommate (who is, of course, a good friend) will occasionally forget that I'm a pro-Lexus consumer and just bash Lexus in a degrading manner even when I'm sitting right there in front of him.
Those BMW fanboys just can't deal with the fact that any Japanese manufacturer - much less Lexus - is encroaching on their territory. Now that they can't make fun of the performance offered by the IS-F or LF-A, they'll try other avenues. Like the exhaust pipes.
I don't know why people can't just be happy that there are a slew of advanced, high-performing entry-level sedans coming out at price points that the vast majority of Americans can afford. A 4.0L V8 M3 making 425hp for $54k? A 5.0L V8 Lexus sedan that out-slaloms a Porsche Cayman for $56k? Both doing 0-60 faster than a 360 Modena? It's a great time to be in the market for performance sedans, I'll tell you that.
Its pathetic really. Especially since both cars price/performance and looks are identical. They could be brothers with different fathers quite frankly.
01-14-08, 06:05 PM
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01-14-08, 08:02 PM
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01-16-08, 03:16 PM
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I wonder what the mpg will be for the LF-A and LF-A convertible. (15-20 mpg)
As I said again hope it will have a drag co.efficient similar to the LS.
As I said again hope it will have a drag co.efficient similar to the LS.
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