wow that's pretty expensive for the car. indeed it's in the ferrari category. but then again, people need to know you can't get ferrari at msrp.


still, expensive

 

I can't really afford this car either way. So, it makes me proud to drive a lexus, now that they have a freaking expensive halo car. haha

 

maybe it will be 1989 all over again..... this time for sports cars.

but is lexus really serious about sports cars? how much profit is to be made here? and i know toyota is all about the profit......

 

I'd bet on Nissan selling 100 GT-Rs to every LF-A. Sure it'll be competitive, but at that price point, the performance stats take back seat to exclusivity of the marque. They're all fast. They all corner like they're on rails. They all brake like you've hit a wall. With a $200k+ price, they'll be lucky to sell 100 worldwide.

Sad day.

 

but those cars aren't to be compared with each other though. it's like saying the same comparison applied on ferrari and lambo

 

Engine is front mounted mid engine, however the radiators are in the rear which explains the air intakes and the radiator exhaust from the the rear. Having the radiators in the rear removes a lot of styling and aerodynamic restrictions from the front end

 

i think even if the LF-A ends up being a commercial failure, we might be upon another "1989" moment, or a 2000GT moment.

as dunnojack mentioned, Toyota is a ruthless moneymaking machine, but with their foray into "Sports" cars with the acquisition of Subaru, and the introduction of the IS-F (an amazing 1st try) it doesn't seem like Toyota's out to kid around in putting the "sport" into the brand.

It is damn expensive, but I also have a feeling that the LF-A will be an innovation in its own right.

 

I'm sure he knew the engine wasn't in the rear...but will it be a V8 or a V10?

 

At least it will be light.

 

Thats a pretty hefty price tag, even with us having a weak dollar. However, they haven't made too many huge blunders, especially with this much at stake, so I have faith in them. They are also smart enough to know that if they are going to bring it to this niche, they have to do it as well if not better than the European competition. If there is extensive use of Carbon Fiber and if the curb weight really is at 3000lbs, then I can definitely see justification for the price tag.

Whats the cheapest you can buy a Carbon Fiber composite sports car?

 

It could also just be a one-time deal...kinda like when Jaguar made the XJ-220. Great supercar when it came out, but it was just one of those cars they got off their chest, and moved on.

 

I wonder if the numbers are accurate, we've seen reports coming out of Japan before, and the prices quoted there don't necessarily translate to the US market.

Additionally, there is perhaps the case of the NSX, which was more affordably priced yet was supposedly still a major loss-leader for Honda, which gives them pause to develop the new version.

However, Lexus' pricing strategy nowadays is much closer to the competition, e.g. IS-F vs. M3 vs. C63 AMG.

 

Word for word

 

What rominl said is VERY VERY true and its getting even more true by the month. I'm regularly lurk F-Chat, and have occasionally went to their meets, and purchasing a Ferrari is more or less analogous to purchasing high-demand real estate. I doubt the LF-A is going to be as hard or as in demand to get. I think a very limited number of units of the Lexus would sell here, especially if there is extensive carbon fiber use in the chassis and body. If Lexus were to start racing successfully in a series like ALMS, it would further give the car credibility.

Read on for those of you not familiar with "The Ferrari Game":

If you win the powerball and decide you want to go buy a new Ferrari for MSRP, you can't. To get one within 30days time, you are going to pay an astounding markup. I have to check what it is currently, but for a couple years, F430 spiders were demanding $100,000+ markups. To get a new 599, be prepared to pay a half million currently

The only way you are otherwise ever going to get a new Ferrari at or closer to MSRP, is by buying several pre-owned ones from the dealer. For a 360, they say you generally may pay an extra $20-30,000 to buy it from the dealer vs buying the same car of the same condition from a private owner. After you do this at least a few times, they MAY decide to put you on the list for a new Ferrari. However, some people have gotten a verbal assurance after buying 1 or 2 cars from the manager that they would be allowed to be put on the list to find out later they were lied to. Order books for the F430 are already closed. Orders for the privleged are now being taken for the F430 replacement which there is no info for anyway. If you are able to purchase one of these cars (which you are only allowed to buy a new one from the Ferrari dealer in your region from what I hear), if you want to get rid of it within the first year, you are required to sell it back to the dealer so they can low ball you for its worth and then mark it up to sell as a pre-owned one. If you deviate from this at all, the dealer at any point can take the "privilege" away of letting you buy a new car ever again. If you are allowed to order one, and when your allotment comes in a couple of years and you pass on it, there's a good chance you may find yourself falling out of favor with the dealer as well.

With increasing numbers of wealthy in Russia, Middle East, and China, demand is further outstripping supply. Ferrari is not really increasing production, so as time goes buy these cars are going to be in less supply.

 

This pricing is just speculation but if it is true it is way way too expensive. I don't care how fast it is or what it goes around the ring. If Toyota wants this car to be somewhat successful they are going to have to get back to reality with their pricing scheme and come to grips with Lexus has zero credibility with sports cars and when people think of Lexus the last thing they think of is high performance drivers cars. People spending 200-225 generally don't care how good the car is but the brand and its history and Lexus does not have the brand cachet or history for those people to spend that kind of money. If it is priced that high the main focus is just going to be on Lexus charging 225K for a car instead of the actual specs and how it drives. I think pricing it over 150K is a big mistake but around 200K or over is almost ensuring this car to be a quick one off model as it will get very few sales and be known as a extremely overpriced Lexus.

Their is nothing that special or exotic about a front engined v10 sports car. A BMW M6 has a front engine v10 with 500hp and it is around 100K so Lexus is going to have a though time convincing buyers that their car with roughly the same specs is twice as good even though it will be much lighter and faster. Acura is also stupid if they are going to be pricing the NSX replacement close to 200K. Why they are pricing these cars this high is beyond me when they have never sold cars anywhere near that price range and really don't have the prestige or cachet to sell cars at that price range. I think these cars should be priced around 105-125K and most would not consider them too overpriced if they have the performance and quality to back it up. I don't know why anybody would want these cars to be priced around 200K. Hopefully these rumors are not true and they are more sensible with their pricing.