Originally Posted by TommyJames

Many of you keep placing a value on exclusivity. It means virtually nothing. If it did, Vectors would be through the roof. I could go down a long list of low production cars that are damn near worthless unless more than 20 years old where they start to regain some collector value. Most exotic owners I know look at price/performance/brand image (looks included) and that's about it. This is why Ferrari still sells in its market segment over Corvette. Same with Lamborghini and other brands. If the LFA excites you, great! I'm still waiting for the posts where people are in love with it AND have plunked their money down to buy one. At the end of the day, that's the real proof of market value. People can come here and defend it or bash it all day, but in the end, I want to see the actual sales in our market. By now 25+ US buyers should be notified and so far, I've not seen anyone doing the Snoopy dance on any forum that they have been chosen by Lexus. Meanwhile, the F458 line is so long two dealers I know are telling customers that production is already sold out three years.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

The Alfa 8C is a curious example.

It sold out new at prices that more like in the $300+ zone.

In the US Fiat did not even have Alfa dealers so they did an informal thing through the Ferarri/Maserati network.

I think they did 500 coupes and then another 500 of the spiders in a second wave.

It is considered to be about the best looking machine created in the past 10-20 years.

It has tepid performance and under its skin is little more than a badge engineered Maserati Gran Sport/Ferrari Califormia without the direct injection and dual clutch tranny and in the case of the the spider it is missing the hard top.

The 8C seems to have dropped like a stone in the resale world (to Tommy's point). After you mentioned the vehicle I saw one on Ebay with 900 miles with a buy it now tag of $239K. I believe a year ago folks were looking for $340K (Ferrari 599 money).

Originally Posted by Ice350

Don't pump him up....he does enough of that on his own!

Originally Posted by TommyJames

The price is finally out on the F458 and it will come in loaded at $300k or less, depending on options. The Superleggera is also showing some impressive numbers and Lamborghini always understates their actual performance. If you don't like either car, you can get out without waiting two years.

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

Actually its not everyone but everyone that simply really has no idea about why it costs so much and use SIMPLISTIC methods to say its overpriced. What car with that type of carbon fiber construction is 200k? None, not one. As a matter of fact the ones that use that type of construction are TWICE the price and even more. Its funny how that fact falls flat on people.

Its construction for instance cannot be compared to anything short of an Enzo or Zonda. That is a fact.

Since reading is too much for people, Chris Harris explains it well.

http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetev..._uk_roads.html

Originally Posted by MR_F1

And that has what exactly to do with my statement?

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 is US buyers go out next week.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including N Indiana).

The 1100 worldwide number for the list is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 is US buyers go out next week.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including N Indiana).

The 1100 worldwide number for the list is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 is US buyers go out next week.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including N Indiana).

The 1100 worldwide number for the list is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 is US buyers go out next week.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including N Indiana).

The 1100 worldwide number for the list is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 US buyers go out next week.

The final break out added more cars to the US than the original plan (150) due to things being slow in the EU.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including one in N Indiana).

My contact confirmed that the 1100 worldwide number (seen in a few posts) for the list of interested persons/qualified is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

I just recieved my allocation by phone.

Letters to the 170 US buyers go out next week.

The final break out added more cars to the US than the original plan (150) due to things being slow in the EU.

3 will be in Chicagoland (including one in N Indiana).

My contact confirmed that the 1100 worldwide number (seen in a few posts) for the list of interested persons/qualified is correct.

Over 400 on the list are from the US.